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--- Quote from: groinkick on April 27, 2018, 03:27:01 AM ---You know one of my theories is the "Walking Stick" is actually He Who Walks Beside...  Harry said that it appeared alive, and the fact that it seems to consume negative energy, and killing is an inherit part of it's power increases that belief.

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I used to think that too (Similar to that thing that time in Thomas Covenant), but this WOJ blew it out of the water for me:

--- Quote ---2013 Wyrdcon Q&A
The Blackstaff is not sentient per se it’s just really, really, really powerful and tapped into like some serious elemental powers in the universe.  But basically all it really is is insulation from using those powers.
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Kindler:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on April 26, 2018, 11:04:54 PM ---I think Changes would be the exception, seeing as he was the one that started the war they were trying to peacefully end.  That wouldn't be a good time to call him in for his first session.

Not that I'm saying it's likely or anything.  But I could see it being some obsolete rule that gets used in a desperate political situation.

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Not sure Harry's Warden status was something that was really official until Cold Days; he didn't have any idea what it meant, and I don't know if the Merlin even knew about it. I think Eb and Listens-to-Wind sort of agreed to let Harry figure things out before outing him to the Senior Council—especially since Cristos joined them. He's certainly not someone they'd want to hand that kind of information to.

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--- Quote from: Kindler on April 30, 2018, 03:05:25 PM ---Not sure Harry's Warden status was something that was really official until Cold Days; he didn't have any idea what it meant, and I don't know if the Merlin even knew about it.

 I think Eb and Listens-to-Wind sort of agreed to let Harry figure things out before outing him to the Senior Council—especially since Cristos joined them. He's certainly not someone they'd want to hand that kind of information to.

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I dont think it matters, at least in the case of the Warden and likely the blackstaff.  Those mantles are not, apparently, granted by the Council itself but rather by outside (supernatural) forces and simply honored acknowledged by the Council.  The Council could not have taken the title/role of Warden from Harry regardless of if they wanted to, the affiliation seems mostly just historic at this point. 


To the OP: I believe the title of Ancient is a Council honorific given to the current Eldest Wizard.  While I do not really think this comes with a mantle or any other tangible magical benefit, the fact that Eldest is significant enough to warrant a Mantle in the fae races makes me think that Eldest Wizard* might well have developed it's own Mantle over the years. 

*Note that this would go to the eldest by subjective chronological experience, so folks that cheated via NN shenanigans like Rashid would not get to cut to the front of the line. 

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It may also go to someone not already in higher office.  If say Langtry was Ancient Langtry, he wouldn't go by it as he is Merlin.  Someone less ranked, less aged than he may adopt the moniker.

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--- Quote from: raidem on May 08, 2018, 11:02:41 PM ---It may also go to someone not already in higher office.  If say Langtry was Ancient Langtry, he wouldn't go by it as he is Merlin.  Someone less ranked, less aged than he may adopt the moniker.

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Nah, I think it would pretty much have to go tot the literal eldest, regardless of other rank.  Im assuming, for example, that being the Ancient does not guarantee you a seat on the SC, any more than being Blackstaff or Capt of the Warden's does.   

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