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Rasins:
What we have are a bunch of clues that may or may not be applicable.

He was born on Halloween.  Is that significant for being a starborn? We don't know.  We do know that is when Mask/Mantles can be gained or discarded.

We know Elaine was/is a potential Starborn.  But we don't know her Birthday.  I doubt it was Halloween, because if it was, I'd think Harry would have mentioned it at some point when he was thinking about her.

We know his Mother died in childbirth.  Could this have been significant?  Possibly.  A sacrifice element may be needed, but we don't know.

His father was "a good man" according to Eb.  This could have been an ingredient in the creation of a starborn.  I think it was.

Since Harry was born on 10/31, that means he was conceived around 01/31.  I know of nothing significant, astrologically or religiously significant for around that date.

I think we are lacking to many things to really make a good guess.

Still, it's fun to think about and theorize.

jonas:
and knowing full well Thomas was born on Valentines day we should have long ago sloughed off the idea Halloween is important for 'starborn' or the unique date, again, as Elaine was born in spring, and she is the only case we know of as a certain maybe. But also add in the fact Mab would take Thomas and it makes me think he has the same potential as Harry to be a potent Weapon vs Outsiders...  Also comparing Elaine to Harry the thing that happens at Halloween iirc is the equinox, and the same in the summer with Elaine i'd bet so their birthdays co-align with Winter and Summer, Harry the Wintery Side and Elaine the Summery. It's an intentional balance done between the two.

peregrine:
Jim has said that Thomas was born on Valentine's day because the universe has a sense of humor.  Literally nothing has suggested that Thomas is also a Starborn other than that Mab said she could take him, and even that was said to put pressure on Harry.

Plus neither the equinox or solstice come anywhere near Halloween.

jonas:

--- Quote from: peregrine on April 03, 2018, 12:20:59 AM ---Jim has said that Thomas was born on Valentine's day because the universe has a sense of humor.  Literally nothing has suggested that Thomas is also a Starborn other than that Mab said she could take him, and even that was said to put pressure on Harry.

Plus neither the equinox or solstice come anywhere near Halloween.

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sorry I misspoke
--- Quote ---The 4 cross-quarter days fall between equinoxes and solstices. Halloween is the spookiest one – derived from a sacred festival of ancient Celts and Druids – coming as days grow short and nights long in the Northern Hemisphere.
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Halloween in the DF is specifically a time of ending, cross that with Harrys affinity for Death, endings and Winter(which is all over the place), Elaine's spring birthday and her connotations to Summer and her more nature bound elements in casting AND then take Thomas's very specific birthday and the fact he's basically become addicted to feeding on Love via only satisfied by Justine, more or less becoming an addict to a poison, like a drinker, that poison being love. Annnd then maybe you start to realize not all starborn are the same? That maybe they are as varied as say... the stars in the sky?

Another one that has that potential 'good man who saved fallen mother' make up is Molly whom I could point out as a real likely canidate for being Mab's star reborn as she directly effected how Fearbringer was formed in reality and was trained to use fear without breaking the laws by Lea before becoming a winter canidate(or as a result of said training/mirror alignment Mmm?)
But your right literally nothing is outright stated about much of anything in the DF, instead it's left to us, quite intentionally, to fill in the Lacuna.
(click to show/hide)THAT! right there, I made you use logic in a linear fashion to guess at something stated nonlinearly based on a known premise, assuming you know by now the meaning of lacuna. collecting and connecting otherwise disparate thoughts into a cohesive formation It's not that hard to do really.... and this is why I was looking for someone to talk to on the level, not listen to what we already know for sure. Iff'n I wanted that I have the books, yea?

jonas:
Lets examine that in conjunction with Griff's assertion Starborn exist in all timelines.
First, i'm going to limit it right now, to DF verses only. Then take what JB said about the NN surrounding only earth in 'this' reality and apply it to the DF verse proper. Stars are ergo outside of reality, the masks of those things are known and worn on earth, imo if the thing itself is whole, a whole star, then it's more or less an angel class being, ergo immutable by Nemesis(whom is then off our star/shadow, only able to effect what stand inside our light, Angels are outside of space/time to view it. Harry, starborn, of the stars, but mortal, mutable himself, can effect both sides as you 'cant' protect from yourself') So reality surrounds earth and those things outside of reality pierce into it in various guises depending on which reality it is, also why Outsiders look different but Uriel actually looks the same in all realities, he is the star, he went from mortal starborn to immortal star simultaneously. Basically overwriting it's old form the same way the fallen now think they are the originals but Lasciels 'closest to true form' is a 2k yr old Greek woman..
Anyway, what was I talking about?

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