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KurtinStGeorge:
I'll have to re-read the scene where Harry first met HWWB but I don't remember him beating the Walker with his own magic. HWWB was stupid enough to stand between two gas pumps. Harry was PO'd which allowed him to generate his first big fire spell (Fuego!) which destroyed the safety mechanisms on the pumps to create a huge explosion and fireball.
It's not until Cold Days that Harry is shown to have real influence over an Outsider (Shark Face) by using his full Name as a mental weapon to force the Walker to reveal his own Name. It was a very intuitive move by Harry because Lash didn't give Harry a hint about how he could have influence over Outsiders, just that he could do it.
If Elaine could do something similar, doesn't she have to know in advance that it's possible? Wizards as a rule don't like handing anyone their full name, though Harry and Elaine know each other's. Even though I strongly suspect we will find there are other ways a Starborn may exert influence over Outsiders, if they don't have any idea they have such power why would they even try?
jonas:
Right? I always chalked it up to it being regular old fire after he called it up, just like the can of sterno.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on April 08, 2018, 12:28:30 AM ---I'll have to re-read the scene where Harry first met HWWB but I don't remember him beating the Walker with his own magic. HWWB was stupid enough to stand between two gas pumps. Harry was PO'd which allowed him to generate his first big fire spell (Fuego!) which destroyed the safety mechanisms on the pumps to create a huge explosion and fireball.
It's not until Cold Days that Harry is shown to have real influence over an Outsider (Shark Face) by using his full Name as a mental weapon to force the Walker to reveal his own Name. It was a very intuitive move by Harry because Lash didn't give Harry a hint about how he could have influence over Outsiders, just that he could do it.
If Elaine could do something similar, doesn't she have to know in advance that it's possible? Wizards as a rule don't like handing anyone their full name, though Harry and Elaine know each other's. Even though I strongly suspect we will find there are other ways a Starborn may exert influence over Outsiders, if they don't have any idea they have such power why would they even try?
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My theory is that the color of Harry's magic depends on the type of power he's channeling. We've had silver magic fueled by soulfire, and blue magic fueled by winter power.
So far we've seen two fights with Outsiders, and both times, golden magic has been manifested.
--- Quote from: Ghost Story, against Behind ---My rage and fear poured out of me. Fire lashed out from my open hand like water from a broken hydrant. It spilled all over He Who Walks Behind and over Stan’s body, and lit up the darkness with angry golden light.
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--- Quote from: Cold Days, against Before ---“Go ahead!” I shouted. “Go ahead and eat me! And then we’ll see if you’ve got the stomach to keep me down!” I lifted my staff and golden white fire began to pour from the carved runes as I gathered power into it.
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If I'm correct, starborn power manifests subconsciously when going toe-to-toe with Outsiders. And Harry manifested it as a kid without knowing anything about starborn, or his power over Outsiders.
That suggests that Elaine wouldn't have to know what she was facing, or about her power over them, to be a successful starborn (if she were).
raidem:
My wag is that a Angel speaking words, giving assistance, or another subharry acting on younger Harry in that fight.
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