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groinkick:

--- Quote from: jonas on March 01, 2018, 05:49:18 AM ---No, no. Merlin Made DR in our reality specifically. NN time isn't the issue, it's true time as seen by mortal linearity. An i'm not sure the actual passage of time would be important than, just that the precise 'time' is co-aligned in each different area to be at the same time from whichever standard time can then be measured from... the stars themselves perhaps?

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The books have been completely vague on this.  What makes you so sure?  Harry's home for example was protected from the Never Never side by Leah, without Harry's knowledge.  Why couldn't Merlin have been doing a lot of the work in the Never Never when constructing the Island?

jonas:

--- Quote from: groinkick on March 01, 2018, 05:58:17 AM ---The books have been completely vague on this.  What makes you so sure?  Harry's home for example was protected from the Never Never side by Leah, without Harry's knowledge.  Why couldn't Merlin have been doing a lot of the work in the Never Never when constructing the Island?

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Negligible, DR exists IN reality. It's existence as a physical place/magical construct are it's resultant 'creation. Unless other event's/layers become apparent that's the one i'm counting... and I'm not so sure his actions didn't sync the other side automatically to what it became/is anyway. What if like Marcones bank the other side was just waiting for a connection?

groinkick:

--- Quote from: jonas on March 01, 2018, 03:35:47 PM ---Negligible, DR exists IN reality. connection?

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The Island does, the holding place of the things down below is not so certain to be in reality.

raidem:
In not so certain that Merlin created the entire demonreach prison.  I think he ended up encapsulating demonreach prison around some of the already locked up inmates.  So, there is a prison that predates merlins construction.

As to the argument about Merlin creating demonreach at different times all at once with the assumption that it is a single timeline really doesn't make sense.  I mean, I'm known for out there time travel theories but for this to be true it exceeds my out there theories by far.  My theories are typically a single time loop, not loop to the fifth power.  This is why parallel realities are needed. We didn't know much about parallel realities but we were introduced to them in the same book that Bob models Merlin creating demonreach.  There very well may be realities that spun off where Merlin didn't create demonreach.  We are restricted to a set of realities so far where it has been created.

A side note.  In amber, amberites can actually choose shadowworlds and have them be at a time, define by their imagination.  So say Merlin is an appetite or is working with one, he can choose a parallel earth that looks as if it was 1000 years ago, but it isn't time travel into the past, it is just a world that ticks slower or was made after another.  So we have another option where Merlin chooses 5parallel worlds at different stages of time to create his demonreach prison.  It is only created once on each world.  But Merlin creates all of this at the same time.

groinkick:

--- Quote from: raidem on March 01, 2018, 07:42:34 PM ---In not so certain that Merlin created the entire demonreach prison.  I think he ended up encapsulating demonreach prison around some of the already locked up inmates.  So, there is a prison that predates merlins construction.

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Yeah.  The Island itself is on Earth but the magic woven around it could have been done on Earth, and different planes in the NeverNever.  Considering the nature of the things locked up it would make sense that the NeverNever would have spells too.  I mean if it didn't they would have a back door escape so to speak.  The reason Harry didn't get killed was as I pointed out before, Leah had protected his home from the NeverNever.

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