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Queen Succession Rules
jonas:
--- Quote from: Arjan on January 24, 2018, 06:19:56 PM ---Maeve can lie and her mantle murdering Harry is exactly what she wants.
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But she can't make the mantle lie to Harry. He knows he can take her, and his Mantle knows it would rather do that than try to kill her.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: jonas on January 24, 2018, 06:27:00 PM ---But she can't make the mantle lie to Harry. He knows he can take her, and his Mantle knows it would rather do that than try to kill her.
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I do not think the mantle knows. What the mantle knows the knight can learn and some things are not meant to be known by mortals.
It is just the knights mantle meant for mortals.
Quantus:
To be fair, at the time of the CD conversation Maeve was Nemfected, so she likely could have ignored all of these sorts of limitations. It's more the question of what she could do without Outside help, or I guess what Molly can do now.
Cozarkian:
--- Quote from: raidem on January 24, 2018, 04:25:46 PM ---It can be used however to support the idea that the Knight and Lady can have sex. True, there is still the argument that can be made against it. Now, if she in fact meant "supposed to" knowing it is in fact an occurrence, then it comes that much closer to a lie. So, I agree with your statement that it isn't a lie, and it largely is an opinion but it doesn't preclude it from being a fact that the knight and lady can have sex. They definitely in Maeve's opinion should want to.
In any event, the point-at least in another thread-was that Maeve was trying to co-opt Harry for her purposes. Most likely to aid her in freeing the Sleepers prior to banefire. I forget to which purpose I place certain posts under specific threads. This one was the knight have sex with lady idea.
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Im not arguing against that. In fact, see my post #30, as I think I'm the one to first raise the possibility of WK/Lady sex in this thread.
There are really 3 possibilities 1) they can't have sex (but then why seduce him - Maeve seemed strong enough to take Harry without needing the mantle defenses), 2) they can always have sex (but then why didn't she get pregnant with Slade and become Queen) or 3) Nemesis allows Maeve to have sex in addition to lying (but why not just get pregnant and destroy the mantle).
jonas:
--- Quote from: Arjan on January 24, 2018, 06:46:47 PM ---I do not think the mantle knows. What the mantle knows the knight can learn and some things are not meant to be known by mortals.
It is just the knights mantle meant for mortals.
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That doesn't really explain anything... it's actually confusing to me lol.
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