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Queen Succession Rules
groinkick:
I think the Mantle can move a few different ways.
#1. Mother Winter takes the Queen Mantle and gives it to whom she deems fit. (She threatened to eat Harry, and give his Mantle to someone else)
#2. The Queen hands it down to whom she deems fit (usually to Lady most likely)
#3. The Queen dies, and the Mantle seeks the nearest deserving person similar to what happened to Molly.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: groinkick on January 15, 2018, 07:24:19 PM ---I think the Mantle can move a few different ways.
#1. Mother Winter takes the Queen Mantle and gives it to whom she deems fit. (She threatened to eat Harry, and give his Mantle to someone else)
#2. The Queen hands it down to whom she deems fit (usually to Lady most likely)
#3. The Queen dies, and the Mantle seeks the nearest deserving person similar to what happened to Molly.
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I dont think #2 holds true anymore. That is what was implied back in SK, but Meave's whole scheme in CD was based on the idea that Mab could NOT control who her mantle went to, even if Mab was the one who killed her. Mabs' only apparent means to influence the Lady is to provide a preferable host in close proximity.
Cozarkian:
I think the Lady mantle grabs the nearest vessel, then the Queen and Mother mantles follow along. I don't think it happens instantly, though, and there is likely a potentially apocalyptic delay before a new Mother Summer is established.
For my rationale:
(click to show/hide) The role of Queens as Maiden/Mother/Crone is a biological imperative. The lady can't be a mother and the mother must be. The crone has started menopause.
When the Lady gets the Mother mantle, it takes control during her fertile time and drives her to have sex. Upon conception, the Lady mantle leaves to find a new vessel. The new Mother would have a 9 month reign as Queen. At the birth of her child, the crone mantle would force her into menopause, causing the Queen mantle to jump ship into. The new lady, who would then proceed in her own quest to have children, freeing the Lady mantle to find another new vessel.
The above would make it impossible for the entire Murphy clan to become the Queens, as Mother Murphy is already ineligible to become Lady.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Quantus on January 15, 2018, 07:53:01 PM ---I dont think #2 holds true anymore. That is what was implied back in SK, but Meave's whole scheme in CD was based on the idea that Mab could NOT control who her mantle went to, even if Mab was the one who killed her. Mabs' only apparent means to influence the Lady is to provide a preferable host in close proximity.
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My ideas were on what Mab could do with her own Mantle which is why I added it's usually given to the Winter Lady.
raidem:
--- Quote ---The above would make it impossible for the entire Murphy clan to become the Queens, as Mother Murphy is already ineligible to become Lady.
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See, I disagree here. I think the Mother 'should' be at least a real life mother. I think that is one of the bedrock principles for the Mother Mantles. If a Lady happens to find herself in the Mother position without being a mother, I think we are in a world of hurt.
So, I favor the following:
--- Quote ---2) Top Down: The Mothers are described as the Foundation and Bedrock of the Courts, so all other Functions might be on hold until that mantle is filled. The result would be the same Top three most suitable candidates would get the three mantles, but all three would go out seeking in parallel.
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