The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Nicodemus wants to be God
wardenferry419:
IMHO, I cannot see Deirdre as anything more than a delusional, sadistic killer. Now, whether she drank the kool-aid willingly or caved into prolonged peer pressure is debatable. But, an individual that tries to create flesh-confetti out of people with their Medusa-like razor hair is not a nice person nor should they spend their afterlife walking with angels.
forumghost:
Oh yeah, Deirdre is totally a monster.
The Tragedy of her situation is that she never really had a chance to be anything else- I doubt she was as old as 3 before a Fallen Angel took up residence in her brain. It's like if a child was raised from birth to believe down was up. She really drew a bad hand.
Though I doubt it makes much difference to her, since tragic or not, she's still going to spend the rest of forever trapped in a giant blender set to "puree"
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Ananda on November 22, 2017, 01:12:16 AM ---You’re talking about Nic. I’m talking about Deirdre. She is her own person. I think you’re conflating the two.
Deirdre became aware of the universe’s peril. Deirdre acquired information regarding a way to avoid said peril. Deirdre decided she would sacrifice herself to enact the method. Deirdre committed to and engaged in a selfless act to save the universe.
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Again, It's my belief that she thinks she will rise again, and obtain great power. Therefor her "sacrifice" was nothing about helping people, or the greater good. It was about being part of a plan that will result in her benefit, the opposite of self sacrifice.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: groinkick on November 22, 2017, 07:35:01 PM ---Again, It's my belief that she thinks she will rise again, and obtain great power.
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What exactly are you basing belief in the existence of this possibility in the DV on ?
groinkick:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on November 22, 2017, 07:44:55 PM ---What exactly are you basing belief in the existence of this possibility in the DV on ?
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#1. She doesn't seem the type for self sacrifice. Haven't seen any redeeming quality from her the entire series.
#2. Nicodemus believes God will lose, making me believe he has an idea or plan on why he'll lose.
#3. Nicodemus stored her soul in a place where their "enemy" can't get it which makes me believe he cannot gain access to hell, but he can return to Hades realm.
#4. His plan was to obtain many powerful holy relics which uses are unknown but considering that a powerful being who's blood touched them rose from the dead gives reason to believe that they may have the power to raise someone else.
#5. There is a girl within the series who has been in a coma, and therefor her importance for the story could be her body being used as a vessel. If she serves no importance, why have her in the story at all?
#6. Hades is not the power he once was. Souls are stored in his realm but he does appear to be a being that can make deals, or be simply overpowered, meaning the souls are not in some unbreakable vault.
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