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DuMorne and favors owed
Talby16:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 17, 2017, 11:28:43 AM ---Hasn't Jim also said that Lea didn't really give Harry anything in the bargain but a boost of confidence that he could kill Justin in a fight? So it was a pretty dumb bargain on the part of a inexperienced sixteen year old.
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You are correct. Here is the relevant WOJ I found:
Should Harry’s first deal with Lea been covered by Maggie’s deal?
A: Not really. One problem is that Harry dealt with Lea the way that one would deal with another human, so he really didn’t get much out of the bargain besides some confidence. Lea gave him the “magic feather” so to speak.
And, Maggie could have done a little better job on her deal with Lea, but she was kind of in a rush, so she wasn’t as detailed as she should have been.
wardenferry419:
Lea's magic feather seemed more like a reality smack.
peregrine:
I'm pretty sure the favors thing was for Harry to get out from under his obligation to Mab, as acquired from Lea. Not part of his original deal with Lea. But that's not terribly relevant.
However, knowledge is power. Confidence could also be power, the psychological edge that lets you know you can do something. So even if she didn't give Harry anything quantitative to help him (and also, technically "not much" is different from "nothing") she still gave him what he needed.
And finally, even if he did ask for the power to kill Justin, if Justin survived that isn't necessarily a problem for Lea. If I ask for the power to kill my enemies, and someone gives me a pistol, and I miss every single one of my shots and they survive, that's on me. I had the power, I just failed to use it properly.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Talby16 on October 17, 2017, 12:39:45 PM ---You are correct. Here is the relevant WOJ I found:
Should Harry’s first deal with Lea been covered by Maggie’s deal?
A: Not really. One problem is that Harry dealt with Lea the way that one would deal with another human, so he really didn’t get much out of the bargain besides some confidence. Lea gave him the “magic feather” so to speak.
And, Maggie could have done a little better job on her deal with Lea, but she was kind of in a rush, so she wasn’t as detailed as she should have been.
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I am thinking that Harry has been played by the Winter Court since his conception. Margaret saw the need for a star child and agreed to conceive on in return for his protection by the Winter Court, hence Harry has a real fairy godmother in the form of Lea.. The Winter Court gets not only a star child but an eventual winter knight.. I think Harry's fate has always been more or less directed by others, but not so much to over ride his free will, he still has choices. Yeah, Jim compared Harry to Dumbo, as you will remember Dumbo could always fly, but he didn't believe it. Young Harry didn't believe he could beat Justin though he had the power all of the time.. Lea's mumbo jumbo gave him the confidence.. However I don't think the bargain he made with her was very binding, the real contract was made between Margaret and Mab long before he was born, he just doesn't fully realize that yet.
Cozarkian:
I agree with the thoughts that the deal probably wasn't for Justin's actual and permanent death.
Further, that isn't how Mab dies. Something happens that allows Nemesis to infect Mab. Knowing she will eventually lose the fight with Nemesis, she calls in the last favor Harry owes - kill her. Harry does, which per the deal with Mab frees him from all obligation to Winter, including his obligation as WK, stripping him of the mantle and setting off the BAT.
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