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DuMorne and favors owed
wardenferry419:
Are you sure he is beholden only to Mab; because I would suggest he is beholden to all Winter Queens.
Cozarkian:
--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on October 17, 2017, 08:10:59 PM ---Are you sure he is beholden only to Mab; because I would suggest he is beholden to all Winter Queens.
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Doesn't matter - I believe the original deal with Mab was to get rid of all debts to Winter. His service as WK is a debt to Winter, so completing the original deal (3 favors) will free him free from that debt.
Even if it was only a debts to Mab, his agreement to serve as WK was a deal with Mab. He might owe service to all Queens while he is WK, but he only owes Mab to be WK.
peregrine:
--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on October 17, 2017, 08:10:59 PM ---Are you sure he is beholden only to Mab; because I would suggest he is beholden to all Winter Queens.
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His debt by way of Lea is to Mab. His fealty by way of Winter Knighthood is to all Queens.
Cozarkian:
--- Quote from: peregrine on October 18, 2017, 01:03:20 AM ---His debt by way of Lea is to Mab. His fealty by way of Winter Knighthood is to all Queens.
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Similarly, as WK Harry owes fealty to all of Winter, but his obligation to remain WK is only to Mab based on the Changes deal. The SK deal with Mab is three tasks in exchange for all debt to Mab ceasing. That means if Harry completes a third favor, his obligation to remain as WK ends.
kbrizzle:
@ Cozrkian
That’s the way I hope it plays out, but have doubts it would be so neat.
I agree with the other posters in general who consider Lea’s part of the bargain to Harry about Justin’s death being fulfilled - WoJ is that Justin is D-E-D dead, which i think is good enough for the purposes of Sidhe lawyering.
On Harry’s side, I thought a new bargain was made by Mab in Summer Knight - she wanted new terms on Harry’s debt that she ‘bought’ from Lea. The new terms of the debt were that 3 favors owed by Harry to Mab personally OR Harry becomes the WK at any point & consider all extant debts repaid? As far as Harry can tell, WK is a permanent thing (I think he’s wrong), otherwise why would he assassinate himself through Kincaid at the end of Changes?
I mean he’d already completed 2 out of the 3 favors - why wouldn’t Harry just complete the 3rd favor & be done with Mab? Each favor (solve Reuel’s murder in SK & find Marcone in SmF) has ultimately been a blow to the Outsiders/ Black Council, so the 3rd favor (which would have been to kill Maeve) would also follow the same pattern.... These are all things Harry would have done regardless of favors owed to Mab if she just explained what was really going on.
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