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Murphy in Peace Talks (WoJ spoilers)
Mira:
--- Quote from: DonBugen on August 14, 2017, 03:46:00 PM ---Not to be too ominous or paranoid, but… are you so sure that Murphy is still Murphy right now?
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You have a point..
--- Quote ---Yeah, I disagree completely. Karrin has been one of the most accepting people about Harry's changes, together with Michael and Molly. I think you are reading your own feelings about Murphy into her actions
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Has she really? No, there is distrust from Cold Days on...
nervousenergy:
--- Quote from: DonBugen on August 14, 2017, 03:46:00 PM ---Not to be too ominous or paranoid, but… are you so sure that Murphy is still Murphy right now?
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I don't think she is, though in the normal PTSD human sense. To reiterate: She trained in physical combat for years with Odin's crowd (not going to try and spell it without a reference at hand ;-)) and came up short. She focused her whole life on being an cop and had that taken from her. She tried to take the moral high ground in taking possession of one of the Holy Swords and saw it broken to bits on her actions. She may have some permanent disability from this last fight.
People don't just walk away whole and unchanged from shattering events like that. Everything she's based herself on has been brutally taken from her.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: nervousenergy on August 14, 2017, 06:48:07 PM ---I don't think she is, though in the normal PTSD human sense. To reiterate: She trained in physical combat for years with Odin's crowd (not going to try and spell it without a reference at hand ;-)) and came up short. She focused her whole life on being an cop and had that taken from her. She tried to take the moral high ground in taking possession of one of the Holy Swords and saw it broken to bits on her actions. She may have some permanent disability from this last fight.
People don't just walk away whole and unchanged from shattering events like that. Everything she's based herself on has been brutally taken from her.
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Just curious, what are you referring to here, Came Up Short how?
magnuskn:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 14, 2017, 04:28:24 PM ---Has she really? No, there is distrust from Cold Days on...
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There is much more acceptance and trust, though. Compare and contrast with Butters.
DonBugen:
I just can't shake off the feeling that someone in Dresden's crew is more than they seem - either infected by Nemesis, or holding a Coin, or even just a run-of-the-mill traitor. And pre-Ghost Story, Karrin obviously isn't addled, otherwise we couldn't get the short story Aftermath.
But after...
I dunno. She seems to be doing big, major things without seemingly intending to. Especially in Skin Game, where she didn't do a *thing* which helped Dresden. If not for Uriel's completely unanticipated intervention, she would have effectively sabotaged Dresden entirely - introduced Butters and given him the opportunity to get involved, destroyed a Sword, and lost Dresden the backup he needed. If Karrin was a traitor, whose #1 priority is keeping under cover, and #2 priority is to sabotage Dresden, this is exactly how she'd act.
Harry should listen more to his subconscious. Maybe when it gave him the dream about Karrin and Lasciel killing him, it wasn't ONLY warning about Lasciel.
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