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Murphy in Peace Talks (WoJ spoilers)
Gman:
--- Quote from: DonBugen on August 12, 2017, 12:15:26 PM ---I don't remember anything about librarians, and I thought I've seen all of Jim's Q&As and read all his short stories, aside from the Butters and the Wild West ones. I haven't read the stories in the DFRPG and hadn't read any of the graphic novels other than the first, so maybe that's where the reference is?
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I've only seen the Librarians reference a few times. WOJ is basically they are part of the US Govt that is aware of and deals with the supernatural. Little else I have read.
jonas:
We could see Dresden Noir lol, basically just shunt the perspective story sideways to a timeline harry never goes big time and stays in Chicago with Murphy lol. Best thing about unlimited possibilities, unlimited potential stories... Jim could make some what-ifs in the same vein as the comics too if he really wanted. :)
magnuskn:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 13, 2017, 06:18:00 AM --- Murphy wants that old Harry back, and he isn't ever going to come back. She should understand that, she has seen and taken part in enough of Harry's world, but somehow she doesn't. I think the contrast between Harry's conversations with her verses his conversations with Michael in Skin Game says it all. Michael accepts the changes both in Harry and in his life, and he also trusts who Harry is in his core being. Murphy doesn't, that is at the crux of it I think, she plays lip service to trusting him, but her actions/words say different.. I don't think she realizes it yet though, she means well, but all her concern for Harry not being the way he used to be only put an almost unbearable amount of self doubt in Harry. That is not good, not for Harry given his tasks ahead. For me that is what is annoying these days about their relationship, her observations and advice for Harry is all based on how his life used to be.. It is kind of like a parent of an adult kid who cannot accept that kid is grown and living a different life now, I believe the phrase is, "You never used to act this way...."
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Yeah, I disagree completely. Karrin has been one of the most accepting people about Harry's changes, together with Michael and Molly. I think you are reading your own feelings about Murphy into her actions.
jonas:
--- Quote from: magnuskn on August 13, 2017, 05:16:37 PM ---Yeah, I disagree completely. Karrin has been one of the most accepting people about Harry's changes, together with Michael and Molly. I think you are reading your own feelings about Murphy into her actions.
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Yeah, more like she trusts him but also knows him and the world at large, how it's effecting him at any given point. She trusts, but doesn't wear blinders to him either.
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: jonas on August 13, 2017, 05:43:28 PM ---Yeah, more like she trusts him but also knows him and the world at large, how it's effecting him at any given point. She trusts, but doesn't wear blinders to him either.
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The thing is, though, that she's still not the Karrin we met back in the early books, and Harry is no longer the young punk of a Wizard, either. The romantic attraction was always there, and still is, but it no longer feels...well, the attraction feels natural but the idea of them acting on it no longer feels natural to me, not the way it comes across back around Death Masks. Back then, even when he was with Susan, the Murphy relationship felt more natural than the Rodriguez one.
Now, though...that sense of them together as a natural development, at least for me, is gone. I still feel in in reread of the older books, but by the time of Cold Days and Skin Game, the idea produces more of an 'It's Too Late', reaction.
Maybe Peace Talks will change my reaction, we'll have to wait and see.
But I suspect that JB will have to do something about Karrin soon, if she's still going to play a major role in unfolding story. I suspect he'll find it necessary even if he doesn't plan it right now, simply because of the demands of the story.
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