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Murphy in Peace Talks (WoJ spoilers)
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: dspringer1 on August 09, 2017, 03:23:24 PM ---Murphy may take a different role -- that of advisor and chief of staff for Dresden. He already has a track record of going to Murphy for advice and Murphy already has a track record of organizing the Paranet.
I can totally see Murphy being lost (career wise) in Peace Talks and leaving Peace Talks with new direction -- as the warleader of Harry's forces. She will be the one that coordinates the paranet, works closely with Billy, leverages the wee folk, and coordinates with SI, manages alliances with other powers. After all, she has already been doing this while Harry has been dead. Harry is still going to be there at the decision points, but the groundwork behind these decisions can now be delegated to Murphy.
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That would be one way to go. It might esp. make sense if her wounded leg doesn't heal quite up to standard, which is by no means impossible.
The only thing is...that's more or less consigning Karrin to a background role. It's not quite being put on a bus, but it would be the next thing to Michael's retirement. She would still show up regularly, but she wouldn't still be a major player in the story in the same way the others are.
Nor does it do anything to make the Harry/Karrin romance any less fraught. That's another thing that I think might have missed its launch window.
Mira:
--- Quote from: magnuskn on August 10, 2017, 01:58:48 AM ---That is actually not peace and happiness, as was noted in Ghost Story. Purgatory (or whatever you want to call the in-between) is for people who can't pass on, because they are not at peace with their fate.
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It would, in the sense she would be working with her beloved father, and she'd be doing meaningful work. It also would be, if it was her choice to do so. Remember Harry had that choice at the end of Ghost Story, he chose to move on and face what was to come..
KurtinStGeorge:
While I agree with the main point of the OP that Murphy's ability to be in the thick of the fight has been severely diminished and it may seem that she could become redundant to the overall story; however, I think Karrin Murphy helps keep Harry's perspective and perhaps his morality anchored in the real world. Without her he might as well take up residence at Arctis Tor (OK I'm ignoring his daughter for this hypothetical example) and only come out when someone sets off a BAT signal that Chicago needs help or Mab needs something done or done in.
I'm not saying I like everything Jim has done with Murphy since Changes; particularly in Cold Days, but at the end of the day I think she's in the overall story arc for more than her physical toughness. A perfect example is Murphy in Summer Knight when Harry finally spills his guts and tells her about the White Council or in a later story when Harry tells Murphy that he's afraid he might really be the ticking time bomb the Council thinks he is. Karrin Murphy is more than Harry's cheerleader in these situations and she does more than just give him good advice. (Well most of the time it's good advice.) She keeps Harry centered in a way that no one else does. I'm not sure how to express it more clearly than that.
If Murphy was to die anytime soon I think it would be hard for Harry to remain himself. He would necessarily become a darker character. I think that would be the case even if he managed to become a decent father. Harry has already had to face his darker impulses that Lash brought to the surface and he continues to battle Winter's influence. Let's not forget that Harry had to kill Susan to save his daughter's life and the lives of his friends. I not sure I would want to read him any longer if he has to take another blow like that.
Finally, even if she came back as a Valkyrie I doubt Karrin Murphy could be same moral force in Harry's life that she has been before. Without knowing how Jim would write such a transformation I am willing to bet it dramatically changes the perspective and eventually the personality of the person involved. It wouldn't be the win-win scenario some people think it would. Now that's just speculation on my part so I'll leave it at that.
magnuskn:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 10, 2017, 04:42:46 AM ---
It would, in the sense she would be working with her beloved father, and she'd be doing meaningful work. It also would be, if it was her choice to do so. Remember Harry had that choice at the end of Ghost Story, he chose to move on and face what was to come..
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Well, I guess it is a matter of definition. If she feels fulfilled staying in-between, that'd be good enough for her, I guess. Then again, she's devoutly catholic and she also would feel compelled to move on.
Anyway, I still believe that she probably would not stay dead if the funeral thing is for real and not a joke. And being transformed into a valkyrie seems the most probable option.
Mira:
--- Quote from: magnuskn on August 10, 2017, 10:50:13 AM ---Well, I guess it is a matter of definition. If she feels fulfilled staying in-between, that'd be good enough for her, I guess. Then again, she's devoutly catholic and she also would feel compelled to move on.
Anyway, I still believe that she probably would not stay dead if the funeral thing is for real and not a joke. And being transformed into a valkyrie seems the most probable option.
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Which would be worse for her if she is a devote Catholic as you say because she'd be an instrument of a pagan religion.
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