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Murphy in Peace Talks (WoJ spoilers)

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Mira:

--- Quote from: Rasins on August 09, 2017, 03:02:03 PM ---I'm kind of with Mira, except for one thing.

Murphy is a Catholic.

Now, there is nothing to prevent her being one of the chosen, but her residing in Valhalla in her afterlife would cause a conflict with TWG (I'd think).

Then again, we have seen where one's actions prepare one for things that are not what you'd think (cough-cough Winter lady mantle).  So, it's entirely possible that Karrin's actions have prepared her for the Enherjerin (however you spell it.)

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I meant to say that she could go to Valhalla because she is a warrior, Gard would say that.  She could also go straight through the door to Judgement, as you say she has that kind of faith... But I think peace and happiness for her would be joining her father and working for Uriel.

dspringer1:

--- Quote ---I've been thinking about Harry's future, and he wont make the Senior Council during the series.  After, who knows, but not during.  He's just too young.  Sure, they could change the way they pick the SC, but I doubt that's going to happen.

Now, that's not to say he won't be A leader of the council by the time the BAT rolls around.  I think he'll have the Blackstaff by then, and that'll be his major role in the council.
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I think that in the end days of the final trilogy, Harry will rally the shattered and broken White Council to action against the outsiders and do so as the new Merlin -- as the current Merlin would be dead along with most/all of the senior council.   It is dramatic - which the series is.  It is also symmetry - I think the BC has worked from day 1 to shatter the White council so they can rebuild it into a new image.  That Harry is the one to step up and define that new image is karma at its best. 


magnuskn:

--- Quote from: Mira on August 09, 2017, 08:20:02 PM ---I meant to say that she could go to Valhalla because she is a warrior, Gard would say that.  She could also go straight through the door to Judgement, as you say she has that kind of faith... But I think peace and happiness for her would be joining her father and working for Uriel.
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That is actually not peace and happiness, as was noted in Ghost Story. Purgatory (or whatever you want to call the in-between) is for people who can't pass on, because they are not at peace with their fate.

LordDresden2:

--- Quote from: Anubissama on August 09, 2017, 07:13:40 PM ---My personal WAG? Once everything is set and done, the BAT is survived etc. There is no White Council anymore. There is the Paranet and its highest position is the Dresden.

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If so, then the current membership of the Council has to join the Paranet, or that won't work.  The Paranet are minor mages, the equivalent of your local high school baseball team, or at most the local college team.  The Council is MLB.

Which is not to say the Council won't get upended.  The Council has been around, according to Harry, for thousands of years, 'in one form or another'.  I suspect that means that it's a little like China.  Periodic collapses, disruptions, civil wars, internal coups, whatever, but when it's over things calm down and 'the White Council' continues.

LordDresden2:

--- Quote from: dspringer1 on August 09, 2017, 08:44:27 PM ---I think that in the end days of the final trilogy, Harry will rally the shattered and broken White Council to action against the outsiders and do so as the new Merlin -- as the current Merlin would be dead along with most/all of the senior council.   It is dramatic - which the series is.  It is also symmetry - I think the BC has worked from day 1 to shatter the White council so they can rebuild it into a new image.  That Harry is the one to step up and define that new image is karma at its best.

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I think it's completely possible, even likely, that later in life Harry will become the leader of the Council.  But I can't picture a Wizard as young as he is being Merlin within the time span of the series.  Maybe he might lead the Council very unofficially and very temporarily, in some freakish emergency, but he's not even freaking 100 yet.  From the Council POV, he's a barely out of 'new recruit' status.

One of the biggest flaws of the Star Trek movie reboot is that in the first one, Cadet Kirk gets promoted to Captain and put in command of the most important ship in the fleet, right out of the Academy.  That threw a lot of people's WSOD, and for good reason.  I would have the same sort of reaction if Harry became the Merlin within the time-span of the series.

The one exception I could think of it is so many people die in the BAT that at the end of it, Harry is actually one of the senior surviving Wizards.  It is supposed to be an apocalyptic trilogy, so I suppose that could happen.  But if things go so bad in the BAT that Harry, Molly, Carlos, etc. actually are the senior Wizards, then things were really, really, really bad.

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