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Summoning Question
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--- Quote from: Serack on July 27, 2017, 02:42:40 PM ---This. This is the underlying question I'm concerned with.
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#1 - It's described as a sort of OCD compulsion, but it's also established that sending a proxy is sufficient, so it's not absolute.
#2 - Some mental contact is not considered a violation, such as the WN contact with Elaine, the Military Coordination Spell Langtry used in TC, and arguably even the speaking stones with Eb in Changes.
So where does a Summoning become Subconsciously Communicating an Invitation? The only thing I can think of would be the potential fallout of ignoring said Summons. A mortal summoned by Name would eventually get a new Name (the worst the fallout the faster it would happen, even) but that's not permanent but it's a lot of Damage.
Also worth noting: Harry is a special case, per WOJ (When asked about the Dangers of announcing his Name in CD?). If the distinction has to do with your Subconscious, perhaps he's a Special Case because he can theoretically Consciously speak to his own Subconscious and bypass some of the mechanism?
Rasins:
If you'll recall, when Harry summoned Toot-toot in SF, Morgan accused him of violating the law.
Harry loop-holed out of it because Toot wasn't mortal, but he did say that he'd slipped the barest amount of compulsion into the spell.
If used on a mortal, and NOT putting a compulsion into the spell, it could just be a physic invite. If there is compulsion, that implies that it was an UNWELCOME or Uninvited use of mind magic and that would be a violation.
Mr. Death:
I imagine there's a difference between compelling someone to show up and just physically bringing them there.
khadgar4606:
toot toot is kinda special case since he knows there is payment on request he kinda keeps one magical eye open for dresdens call. so he is kinda easier to summon for the ones know the ritual harry uses ( place pizza on target and call toot three times).
the real summoning would be murphy summoning molly via small lesson from dresden with her own power
Zaphodess:
--- Quote from: Serack on July 27, 2017, 10:12:51 AM ---Harry is going to be summoned to the Mirror Mirror universe by his evil doppelganger.
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Maybe the Summoning won't be done by his name but by blood. -Harry is different from Harry, they don't have the same Name any more. It's the nature of mortal Names to change over time. So -Harry can't know it. But they do share the same blood.
Or -Harry just tries out a couple of variants of his name in the hope that one will find another Harry that is still alive.
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