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khadgar4606:
okay here is few questions I have intrested
1. Can wizards create mantles of power like fey ladies?
2. can wizards give compleate mortal some magic gear giving them super powers?
small explanation for second one lets say lucio regains her ability to make swords and harry asks her to make sword for murrpy with some warden like abilities( while in cop mode she gains speed and supernatural instict to dodge bullets and vice versa)
so can any one answer these two questions
Shaft:
--- Quote from: khadgar4606 on June 08, 2017, 01:50:42 PM ---okay here is few questions I have intrested
1. Can wizards create mantles of power like fey ladies?
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If you mean can a sufficiently powerful Mortal Wizard bestowing powers upon another person? To my knowledge it has never been done, but it could also mean transforming their target which violates the Second Law.
--- Quote from: khadgar4606 on June 08, 2017, 01:50:42 PM ---2. Can wizards give complete mortal some magic gear giving them super powers?
small explanation for second one lets say Lucio regains her ability to make swords and Harry asks her to make a sword for Murphy with some warden like abilities (while in cop mode she gains speed and supernatural instinct to dodge bullets and vice versa)
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Yes they can. However, it depends on how long the mortal will keep the gear for.
If it's a loan, the wizard can use one of their own Enchanted Item slots, assuming the Enchanted Item is built in a way that it can be used by another.
If it's a long term gift, the recipient would have to buy the item as an Item of Power and lose the Pure Mortal bonus (but that loss could be offset by the discount from the Item of Power ability).
khadgar4606:
--- Quote from: Shaft on June 08, 2017, 02:55:08 PM ---If you mean can a sufficiently powerful Mortal Wizard bestowing powers upon another person? To my knowledge it has never been done, but it could also mean transforming their target which violates the Second Law.
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yes but creator is also human in this case( i want harry to create mantle of dresden for his friends) also is it counts as sponsored magic for rules perspective
--- Quote ---Yes they can. However, it depends on how long the mortal will keep the gear for.
If it's a loan, the wizard can use one of their own Enchanted Item slots, assuming the Enchanted Item is built in a way that it can be used by another.
If it's a long term gift, the recipient would have to buy the item as an Item of Power and lose the Pure Mortal bonus (but that loss could be offset by the discount from the Item of Power ability).
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i think as permanent boost to her stats with bit of warden mojo
g33k:
--- Quote from: khadgar4606 on June 08, 2017, 02:59:41 PM --- yes but creator is also human in this case( i want harry to create mantle of dresden for his friends) also is it counts as sponsored magic for rules perspective
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I'm not really seeing this, myself. The thing about Sponsored Magic is that the Sponsor takes on the load from what the caster does in their name. It would seem to imply a sort of bilocated consciousness... wherever the sponsor is, plus wherever the sponsored caster is; that would sort of require a sleepless "always available" entity to be the Sponsor.
Also -- are you imagining this leaves Harry without his magic (because it's in the Mantle of Dresden being worn by someone else)?
If not: Harry regularly runs *HIMSELF* to the ragged edge, just with the shenanigans he gets up to; if he was Sponsoring someone else, simultaneously, to be a caster "wearing his mantle" -- he'd run out of juice all the faster!
Last but not least: Harry has vast stores of arcane Lore and hard-won experiences, telling him how and when and why to use magic, & how and when and why NOT to. I can't really see him handing over Dresden-caliber magic to someone without that background (to much like leaving a hand-grenade in with a bag of baseballs at the Little League game... ) .
Quantus:
Here's a WOJ on the Mantle thing in-universe that might help on the power scales involved:
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@longshotauthor is it possible for the Erlking to create a Wyld Knight or some equivalent?
@SuperSnapper61 Engh. He could feasibly take a part of his own power and fashion a new mantle from it. Much weaker than the WK though.
@den_down_unda @jim_turnage The Erlking is simply not on the same scale of power as Mab, though he could probably hand Molly her head.
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The implication I get from this is that to make a Mantle in the way you describe requires that you take an existing mantle and carve a piece of it off, thereby reducing the remaining power of the original host. The Fae have specific drive to do this relating to Cosmic Law and Free Will loopholes, but I dont know what sort of benefit one mortal would get to empower another that way, even assuming they had Power on a level with Mab or even the Erlking to try in the first place. If it were mortal-to-mortal, Id think you'd be better serves (philosophically) by raising a protege rather than attempting what I think amounts to a psycho-surgical Power-dump. If it were a mortal empowering a spirit minion, I dont think it takes that kind of effort, if you consider how Toot is getting tangible Power from his service to Harry, which is increasing as Harry's Power and prominence does.
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