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What is a Saint? (Series Spoilers)
Mira:
--- Quote from: Quantus on June 08, 2017, 08:36:34 PM ---Indeed she took credit for the parting smoke (fairly directly, too, for a fae) though obviously not the Lay On Hand restarting of Harry's heart after what some have argued was a Deathcurse. Whether TWG was complicit in that is a matter of theology I suppose, when talking about an agency that works via coincidence most of the time it's hard to delineate. Easy to say he might have arranged things so that Lea would be able to find them and open the tunnel in the smoke as a response to Michael's Prayer, and hard to disprove.
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Since Mab admits that she works with Uriel at times, well sort of, sometimes they have the same agenda, it could be..
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 09, 2017, 12:52:13 PM --- Since Mab admits that she works with Uriel at times, well sort of, sometimes they have the same agenda, it could be..
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Not impossible, though I would imagine that colluding with Uriel would involve a little more direct interaction than with The Boss.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Quantus on June 09, 2017, 12:57:46 PM ---Not impossible, though I would imagine that colluding with Uriel would involve a little more direct interaction than with The Boss.
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Indeed, supposedly He is the ultimate Boss of both Mab and Uriel..
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 09, 2017, 03:45:49 PM ---Indeed, supposedly He is the ultimate Boss of both Mab and Uriel..
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Oh, no not what I meant at all, just meant that Uriel seems to communicate directly (confirmed by Michael) while I dont see TWG bothering to actually communicate anything with her, s/he'd arrange things and omnisciently Know how she would react
wyltok:
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--- Quote from: groinkick on June 08, 2017, 07:00:14 PM ---When he was at Bianca's ball he used holy magic to harm the Red Court vampires. He did this without the aid of his Sword.
"Iesu Domine!" (Jesus Dominates... I think)
Michael's voice rang out from beneath the vampires like a brass army bugle, and with a sudden explosion of pressure and unseen force, bodies flew back and up, away from him, flesh ripped and torn from them, hanging in raged, bloodless strips like cloth, showing gleaming, oily black flesh beneath.
"Domine!" Michael shouted, rising slewing gutted vamps off of him like a dog shakes off water
"Lava quod est sordium!" (Cleanse that which is unclean.... I think)
That's how I picture a Saint, except more powerful.
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See, that's how I picture a magic-user who's brand of magic is committed to the religious model (something I expect Butters to start exploring more and more, since he has both Bob and non of the same prejudice that early Michael did).
The example of how I picture a Saint comes a little later on. After all, saints are those that are suppose to have the Ear of Heaven, who can ask for things directly on our behalf.
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I'm not 100% certain that it's Michael that's shouting in Latin. Rather, I wouldn't be surprised if he's being moved by TWG, just like we've seen him do with other Knights. In fact, if asked what Michael meant by "[...] the concept of using magic [with] the Almighty behind it", that's exactly how I would define it: allowing yourself to be, for lack of a better term, possessed by TWG or an angel in order to serve as the focus for a Miracle. With that said, it probably comes as no surprise that I find myself thinking more and more that Michael probably is a Saint, given how many Miracles have been channeled through him rather than through the Sword.
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