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What is a Saint? (Series Spoilers)
Mira:
--- Quote from: Serack on June 24, 2017, 10:47:08 PM ---No, because when Uriel asked Harry if he was going to "bill the Almighty?" Harry answered, "heck no.." He was billing Uriel..
Come again?
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--- Quote ---"You're. . . you're trying to bill the Lord God Almighty?" Jake said, as if he couldn't quite believe it.
"Hel---uh, heck no," I said. "I'm billing you."
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Now Jake did say that isn't how they work, and Harry replied that he'd just sit buy and whistle next time they needed him.. To which Jake replied that he wouldn't... The final sentence in the story was...
--- Quote ---But I was pretty sure he was right.
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That in of itself is an acknowledgement...
Serack:
The point of my asking you to come again was to give you a chance to reread what I wrote (with highlighting on parts that already exactly addressed your counter point, then my conclusions also highlighted) and then actually address what I wrote.
Your second response yet again reiterates exactly what I already explicitly acknowledged, and doesn't address my conclusions.
So once more.
Come again?
Avernite:
So...
Might we be at an impasse because one side assumes Faith is a necessity for Sainthood (and specific Faith in TWG, to be precise) while the other side is focusing on how actions speak louder than words (and than thoughts, and than Faith)?
Because that would be quite funny, if we reproduced one of the great divides of real-world Christianity.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Avernite on June 25, 2017, 04:24:01 PM ---So...
Might we be at an impasse because one side assumes Faith is a necessity for Sainthood (and specific Faith in TWG, to be precise) while the other side is focusing on how actions speak louder than words (and than thoughts, and than Faith)?
Because that would be quite funny, if we reproduced one of the great divides of real-world Christianity.
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It is also a matter of understanding what faith is... One can be a person of faith without religion.. Harry is on a first name basis with an archangel, he received a gift from that archangel, a gift of fundamental creation, as Bob said, "it's how angels do all their stuff.." Now where did the angels get this gift called soulfire? Harry knows where they got it, and he doesn't question that, not for one moment.. That is what faith is all about.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 25, 2017, 10:55:43 PM --- It is also a matter of understanding what faith is... One can be a person of faith without religion.. Harry is on a first name basis with an archangel, he received a gift from that archangel, a gift of fundamental creation, as Bob said, "it's how angels do all their stuff.." Now where did the angels get this gift called soulfire? Harry knows where they got it, and he doesn't question that, not for one moment.. That is what faith is all about.
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Soulfire isn't faith based magic. It's a power source (his own soul) he was granted the ability to tap into in order to balance the scales. No faith required.
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