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When Winter took over at the Outer Gates [Spoilers all, including the DFARPG]
rad:
A noble of Britain. If we go with Mab's title The Queen of Air and Darkness it means that she is originally Morgause from Arthurian myth. Her name changed through the years to Morgause but if you look back at various older stories you might just be able to find the original.
Con:
I thought Queen of Air and Darkness was a Morrigan thing?
Ennys:
--- Quote from: Warden John Marcone on January 07, 2017, 04:05:24 AM ---Which brings me back to my question: if Mab is Mother Winter's actual daughter (as said my Mama Summer in SK), who's the poor dumb sop that got it on with Baba Yaga?
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We were told in a WoJ that the current Mab is the second Mab. If Jim is following the tradition of having 3 Baba Yagas, then it would follow that originally they were all sisters without the direct Mother -> Daughter relationship.
That said, though I haven't read it myself, I have seen people mention how the mantles shape a person to be a certain way (ie, Winter Lady not being allowed to have a child). If that is the case, then as Mother Winter, she probably had to have a child at some point; however, that doesn't necessarily mean she did it as Mother Winter or even as Baba Yaga - just that at some point it happened.
Warden John Marcone:
--- Quote from: Ennys on January 09, 2017, 10:08:10 PM ---We were told in a WoJ that the current Mab is the second Mab.
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He'll have to expand on that then as to whether one of the previous Queens was named Mab, because he went on to say that Mab started as the Lady and the previous Queens died which is when the current Mab ascended, and the mantle made her the frigid b**** we all know and fear.
Vorrobblev:
I have a thought. The quote isn't "since Hastings" it's "since BEFORE Hastings". What if (as usual) she is feeling the literal truth, giving a point of reference Harry would understand, and hiding the actual truth all at the same time. She does mean 1066, but not October, what if the actual event was marked by Halley's comet? Maybe they had a right of Ascension then and the invasion and Norman Conquest was a side effect of the new balance.
If we assume an average of one year passing in each book and 7 books left till the BOAT, that gives us a new moon on the night of Oct 31/Nov 1 2024. That would be a perfect start the Empty Night, right.
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