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When Winter took over at the Outer Gates [Spoilers all, including the DFARPG]

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--- Quote from: CloakedDestiny on December 19, 2016, 03:33:28 PM ---How can it be partly Oberon's fault if they haven't spoken since Hastings? Shakespeare is centuries after that. I was wondering about that point too--specifically---they had a love triangle when neither of them were communicating with each other at all!

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I assumed Billy Shakes was simply borrowing from events that had happened long before.  My guess is that it happened before either of them were Queens, and were still Ladies, if not un-mantled teenage Changelings.


--- Quote ---The former gatekeeper was the father of the author of Dante's Divine Comedy--Alighiero di Bellincione, as revealed in the most recent RPG book.

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Damn.  So dude was already in the wizardly equivalent of Old Age even /before/ he became Gatekeeper.  That puts Rashid kicking around as a top tier Wizard in 731-738 AD (Lovecraft said 738, Derleth said 731) but not becoming Gatekeeper until 4-5 centuries later at least, which is already older than any other living wizard we know of.

Cozarkian:
With regard to Titania/Mab not speaking. They are twins. Mab had twins. Seems likely Titania had twins. Perhaps o e didn't survive Hastings?

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--- Quote from: Cozarkian on December 19, 2016, 05:49:05 PM ---With regard to Titania/Mab not speaking. They are twins. Mab had twins. Seems likely Titania had twins. Perhaps o e didn't survive Hastings?

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Titania had twins?  As in Aurora had a sister?  Who-wha?!?  That will be very significant for my prediction-crafting...

CloakedDestiny:

--- Quote from: CloakedDestiny on December 17, 2016, 04:07:21 AM ---I've also wondered about the previous Winter Ladies--especially since we have a gaping period of around ~800 years where Maeve probably wasn't in that seat, and moreover Mab was busy being Queen. "In Mab's time," is a bit vague of a descriptor for when the last Winter Lady died (Mab's time as Queen? Mab's time in existence?) but I'm going to toss out a wild guess: Was it, perhaps, another of Titania's daughters? Mab had twins, it would be oddly symmetrical if Titania did as well...and that like Sarissa leaving her mother by chance to be Lady of an opposite court...so did Titania's other daughter. Perhaps killed by a Starborn?

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Quoting myself here, since I had a very similar idea. There's no direct evidence that Titania had twins, but consider this: People who are twins are also genetically more likely to have twins themselves. Titania and Mab were twins. With fae themes of Balance and Symmetry being so important, it does seem very possible that both Titania and Mab had the same number of daughters---and even twins.

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--- Quote from: Quantus on December 19, 2016, 05:57:34 PM ---Titania had twins?  As in Aurora had a sister?  Who-wha?!?  That will be very significant for my prediction-crafting...

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I said likely. That is just a guess based on the symmetry typically found in the courts.

Aldo, Aurora's desire to end mortal suffering could be because Aurora's twin chose humanity and was killed.

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