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Who Attacked Arctis Tor, and Why

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Lawgiver:

--- Quote from: knnn on February 13, 2015, 06:41:22 PM ---I keep going back to this WoJ:

Nah, they wouldn't even come close.  I mean... it's like comparing apples and... and hand grenades. 

Just about the best they could hope to accomplish would be to force Mab to make an effort.  Though when Mab came for them, it wouldn't be a kick-down-the-door-and kick-ass kind of encounter.  It would be a One-two-three-four-five-Hey-weren't-there SIX-of-us-here-a-second-ago? situation.


So even with a mix of Outsiders and Denarians, there is zero chance of hurting Mab.

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SK has Lea telling Harry specifically that Mab and Titania are powers equivalent to Archangels and lesser deities. That's pretty tough. If Mab has power roughly equivalent to Uriel (archangel) who can destroy galaxies with only a little effort, I don't think a couple of Denarians (who are not Fallen themselves) and a few B-movie 'tentacled horrors' are gonna present much of a threat.

raidem:

--- Quote ---about the vector of power, ot was in a thread a few weeks ago, but is most likely buried under pages of stuff, I believe it was in TC chapt 1. Prolly best way is to look up what Jim has posted. He also confirmed that Mab is injured not crazy.
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--- Quote ---Then again, "crazy" is generally considered to be a lack of connection with reality--and a lot of characters in the Dresden Files can MAKE reality.  They might have a seriously skewed idea of the way reality should be, but if they can make it happen then they aren't crazy, per se. :)

Jim
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--- Quote ---I wanted to ask about the girl at Dresden’s grave. Was it Mab or Leah? Or was she someone else?
Mab and Demonreach both made sure they had a proxy present in those two conversations at Dresden’s grave.
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One Proxy of Mab was when she was IN other was when she was OUT.


--- Quote ---But no one does cold-blooded like the Queen of Winter.  Mab's been in the business a long time, she's got a balance sheet, and she is *not* going to come out in the red--
--unless, of course, she really *has* stripped a gear, as Lily and Maeve believe.  In which case there's a stark raving bonkers demigoddess whose powers are no longer being held in check by the Escher-esque code of Sidhe behavior.  And that's all kinds of bad.
But hey.  It's probably not that.  I mean, not *everything* that happens can be the absolute worst possible possibility, right? >:D
Jim
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Mab IS infected.  (She has split personality at the moment due to being IN and OUT) 
Think of it as a wavelength.  Say she spans a large section of REALITY.  Some of these realities are getting severly chewed upon by Nemesis, others are fairly stable.  She has very strong will, so even in nemesis favored territory she can counter Nemesis though not as adroitly when she is in reality favored territory.

Mira:


  My vote goes for "other" at this point, because I think there were allies involved.  There is evidence of Denarian involvement, or someone or thing that could use Hell Fire, Harry confirmed that.. We know in the war against the Reds, there were Outsiders involved in the battles..  There were traders on the Senior Council, most likely working for the Circle..  There is also evidence that the attack was a tactic, and there was some kind of long game thing going on with Summer.  It could be another group we haven't even heard of yet, using everyone as a gigantic cat's paw.

Phariah:
ok. I always said that PG was the trickiest book yet. layers upon layers. this is a look at how Mab works. she and Titania worked out a deal or Mab calculated even better than I think.

the attack would never have won through. it was meant to allow Harry a chance to get Molly. Harry would never had been able to gain access and win through if the fortress wasn't hammered already. this was the favor Mab owed Nico I think.

Eldest Gruff:

--- Quote from: Phariah on February 13, 2015, 08:11:22 PM ---ok. I always said that PG was the trickiest book yet. layers upon layers. this is a look at how Mab works. she and Titania worked out a deal or Mab calculated even better than I think.

the attack would never have won through. it was meant to allow Harry a chance to get Molly. Harry would never had been able to gain access and win through if the fortress wasn't hammered already. this was the favor Mab owed Nico I think.

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Mab owed Anduriel a favor from way back when she became watcher over the Outer Gates, there is a WOJ floating around about it from not that long ago. Nothing to do with Arctis Tor.

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