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Origins of the Sidhe (High Fae) [CD spoilers]
Mira:
--- Quote ---I would argue the exact opposite: that the position of Blackstaff exists specifically to preserve the rules and morals, that it exists to protect the Spirit of the Laws from their Letter, so that legalese shenanigans cant be used to sidestep the protections that the Laws were intended to provide. And this is the point I think Harry missed in the books: If you have one License to Kill, you dont give it to the cold-blooded murderer, you give it to the person you trust most to act responsibly with it. Harry jumped straight to the assumption that McCoy was a political stooge of the Council rather than, in some ways, its conscience.
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I was not thinking of the "morality" of using the Blackstaff, rather the consequences to the user.
--- Quote ---Jim has set up the Blackstaff as essentially a mind shield to protect from the consequences of performing black magic, and has reinforced that this is it's mechanism when used by a mortal in many many WoJs.
The avoiding the consequenses part is the only reason why I hesitate to say that wielding it can't be an abuse as long as it is a Mortal's free will that is doing the acutal wielding. To me the actual question of interest is, "Will wielding the power result in becoming an immortal, and losing your free will all together?"
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This gets at some of what I was asking.. But you bring up another very important question... Is wielding the Black Staff, black magic? If the theory is correct that the Black Staff is Mother Winter's walking stick, did she wield black magic with it? Or for her, was it merely a walking stick? Or did she use it like Nanny McPhee? So if she did, and it is for black magic use, does this make Winter evil? Or in proper hands is black magic not so bad a thing?
Lost Merlin:
Just a WAG here but what if Mother Winter was the "Blackstaff" for the supernatural community. Keeping everyone in balance to make sure that out stayed out and no one inside got too uppity?
Mira:
--- Quote from: Lost Merlin on May 08, 2014, 02:33:54 PM ---Just a WAG here but what if Mother Winter was the "Blackstaff" for the supernatural community. Keeping everyone in balance to make sure that out stayed out and no one inside got too uppity?
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Perhaps, but was she a wielder of black magic? Is wielding black magic different for immortals than it is for mortals?
Lost Merlin:
--- Quote from: Mira on May 08, 2014, 02:42:32 PM --- Perhaps, but was she a wielder of black magic? Is wielding black magic different for immortals than it is for mortals?
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Does Fae magic have a black side? What would constitute black magic for Fae? For Wizards we say that mid manipulation is black (mab did to harry), Killing humans is black magic (dont have an example from the book, but I am sure it has happened).
Serack:
--- Quote from: Lost Merlin on May 08, 2014, 02:47:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mira on May 08, 2014, 02:42:32 PM --- Perhaps, but was she a wielder of black magic? Is wielding black magic different for immortals than it is for mortals?
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Does Fae magic have a black side? What would constitute black magic for Fae? For Wizards we say that mid manipulation is black (mab did to harry), Killing humans is black magic (dont have an example from the book, but I am sure it has happened).
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I think this is closer to the right questions. In chosing black magic, black magic becomes more in your nature. In some ways it seems that it effects nature too. The choices made in Fae heritage/antiquity apparently already changed them to the point that their natures are more set in stone and less likely to change anyways, so no worrying about corruption. They are already bloodthirsty monsters in many cases...
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