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Origins of the Sidhe (High Fae) [CD spoilers]

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Lost Merlin:

--- Quote from: Quantus on May 08, 2014, 01:07:41 PM ---I would argue the exact opposite:  that the position of Blackstaff exists specifically to preserve the rules and morals, that it exists to protect the Spirit of the Laws from their Letter, so that legalese shenanigans cant be used to sidestep the protections that the Laws were intended to provide.  And this is the point I think Harry missed in the books: If you have one License to Kill, you dont give it to the cold-blooded murderer, you give it to the person you trust most to act responsibly with it.  Harry jumped straight to the assumption that McCoy was a political stooge of the Council rather than, in some ways, its conscience. 

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I think you and I are in agreement rather than at odds here.  The position exists because it has to exist to keep the laws alive. 


--- Quote from: Quantus on May 08, 2014, 01:07:41 PM ---Is it a moral question, or just one of whether there will be eventual Fallout for using a power intended for beings that cannot be killed? Similar to how Harry has been repeatedly cautions against tapping the Ley Line of Demonreach (Which I personally think he will not be able to safely do until HE is the Blackstaff)

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I read it as a moral question, it could be a question of fallout.  One of the fallout's I noted earlier was the black veins which will probably kill/corupt Eb when they get to his heart.  The other question I guess would be if there are external consequences for the magic being frequently released in to the world.  To that I don't know and have no idea if there is any texts in the books YET that explain it. 

Quantus:

--- Quote from: Lost Merlin on May 08, 2014, 01:32:55 PM ---I read it as a moral question, it could be a question of fallout.  One of the fallout's I noted earlier was the black veins which will probably kill/corupt Eb when they get to his heart.

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Oh, I read those veins as sucking the black magic taint out of him, so that it couldnt accumulate and warp his soul.

Serack:
Ok, I ran down and transcribed the WoJ that is in the back of my mind when I brought up this stuff about the blackstaff


--- Quote from: 2013 Wyrdcon Q&A ---The Blackstaff is not sentient per se it’s just really, really, really powerful and tapped into like some serious elemental powers in the universe.  But basically all it really is is insulation from using those powers. 
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--- Quote from: Mira on May 08, 2014, 04:46:22 AM ---Which makes you wonder, were mortals meant to wield such power?  It has been theorized that the "Blackstaff"  is Granny Winter's walking stick.  It is wielded by Eb, a wizard of complete integrity, trusted not to abuse such power..  But isn't wielding it at all an abuse, since it was not meant for mortal hands?  Things like sending a satellite crashing down on Ortega's head....  Was that something that Eb could have down unaided? Is he that powerful?  Or was he aided by the Blackstaff, and did he go too far, no matter how good his motives?

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Jim has set up the Blackstaff as essentially a mind shield to protect from the consequences of performing black magic, and has reinforced that this is it's mechanism when used by a mortal in many many WoJs. 

The avoiding the consequenses part is the only reason why I hesitate to say that wielding it can't be an abuse as long as it is a Mortal's free will that is doing the acutal wielding.  To me the actual question of interest is, "Will wielding the power result in becoming an immortal, and losing your free will all together?"


--- Quote from: Quantus on May 08, 2014, 01:42:38 PM ---Oh, I read those veins as sucking the black magic taint out of him, so that it couldnt accumulate and warp his soul.

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I agree with this interpretation.

Lost Merlin:
Well I shall amend my opinion of the Blackstaff then.  Thanks Quantus and Serack. 

Tami Seven:
I thought I'd throw this in here, just for fun. Something I posted a while back:



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--- Quote --- from: lt_murgen on October 14, 2013, 05:52:49 AM]

    Since favors are essentially Fae currency, it stands to reason that something must exist to keep the fae courts from accruing too much favor for the sake of balance.  Thus the wyld fae could be the balance agent.  Some go to one court or the other and ask for a favor, thus making a 'deposit' into their power base.  Others are needed, thus making a withdrawl (the courts now owe them something).

    The bigger question is, where do wyldfae, particularly the wee folk, come from?
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In the beginning, the Big Bang produced not one, but multiple Universes. Binding these Universes together is a tenuous region of magic we know as the NeverNever. As mortal lives evolved from within each universe, the magic of the NeverNever gave birth to tiny beings. Creatures made of pure magical energies.

In some worlds, the barrier between them and the NeverNever became thin and magic leaked out, infusing some mortals with its power. In time, the tiny beings of the NeverNever also found ways of entering the Mortal world. It is through interactions between these Fae/Pixies/Little Folk and mortals that both became stronger,  more powerful.

In time, many of these magical creatures began adapting themselves to the mortal world, becoming more human or animalistic in appearance and form. Even to the point of being able to crossbreed with mortals. Those are the ones who gained the most power, the ones known a Sidhe as well as other similar beings.

Like Mortals,  evolved beings of magic began to organize into societies,  Courts as they are called. But many of these beings did not fit into these societies and remained Wyld, solitary or tribal but not belonging to any larger Court.

The ones that adapted the least, that remained closer to the original, pre-evolutionary form, are the ones like Toot Toot. However,  the more interaction even these little ones have with mortals,  the more like mortals they become.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2013, 06:33:45 AM by Tami Seven »

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