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Origins of the Sidhe (High Fae) [CD spoilers]
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Lost Merlin on May 08, 2014, 02:47:37 PM ---Does Fae magic have a black side? What would constitute black magic for Fae? For Wizards we say that mid manipulation is black (mab did to harry), Killing humans is black magic (dont have an example from the book, but I am sure it has happened).
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I dont think so because a)the primary consequences of black magic are affects on ones soul, and Fae dont have them, and B) we've seen do all kinds of things that would be Black Magic (forced transformation of people into animals, mind reading, killing, compulsions, etc).
That being said, they may have other limits, relative to the Laws. For example tehy may not be able to do Necromancy, as it is a fundamentally different energy source. We know they cannot Summon Outsiders, though they can cooperate with them once the infiltration has occurred.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Serack on May 08, 2014, 03:23:19 PM ---Does Fae magic have a black side? What would constitute black magic for Fae? For Wizards we say that mid manipulation is black (mab did to harry), Killing humans is black magic (dont have an example from the book, but I am sure it has happened).
I think this is closer to the right questions. In chosing black magic, black magic becomes more in your nature. In some ways it seems that it effects nature too. The choices made in Fae heritage/antiquity apparently already changed them to the point that their natures are more set in stone and less likely to change anyways, so no worrying about corruption. They are already bloodthirsty monsters in many cases...
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That kind of fits old Mother Winter don't you think? Or rather what we picture black magic as being, but in her hands is it evil? Harry used to practically wet his pants anytime he had to deal with Mab.. He considered her evil along with her other titles like the Queen of Darkness. However we are now seeing that the picture is much more complicated. So is Mab really evil or is she a powerful Fae with a nasty job that has to be done.. Defending the Outer Gates against the Outside ain't beanbag.. ::)
Lost Merlin:
she didnt get to be Queen of air and darkness by collecting bottle caps
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Mira on May 08, 2014, 03:40:51 PM ---That kind of fits old Mother Winter don't you think? Or rather what we picture black magic as being, but in her hands is it evil? Harry used to practically wet his pants anytime he had to deal with Mab.. He considered her evil along with her other titles like the Queen of Darkness. However we are now seeing that the picture is much more complicated. So is Mab really evil or is she a powerful Fae with a nasty job that has to be done.. Defending the Outer Gates against the Outside ain't beanbag.. ::)
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Its a matter of some debate. Personally I think she is very much a vicious Evil bitch, just a vicious Evil bitch that has had her Evil channeled into a Job that needs doing.
aShorty21:
--- Quote from: Quantus on May 08, 2014, 03:51:59 PM ---Its a matter of some debate. Personally I think she is very much a vicious Evil bitch, just a vicious Evil bitch that has had her Evil channeled into a Job that needs doing.
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It's ok and kinda cool when Darth Vader is on your team.
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