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Harry's murders of Non-humans! (Cold Days spoilers)
Xandarth:
--- Quote from: LordDresden on November 21, 2013, 07:31:41 AM ---His comments about Andi are simply based on the fact that she's exceptionally hot. There's no particular mystery to it.
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Her character seems to be intended entirely for titillation. Making her Butters trophy girlfriend really just cemented her in the role in my mind. That whole development seemed to be pure fan service.
Hopefully Jim will prove me wrong and she'll develop some real skill or become useful to the group in someway beside from a cheap porn thrill for Dresden in future novels. At the moment, as soon as she appears in a novel I guess how many sentences before she's naked / naked and injured / kidnapped.
Gman:
--- Quote from: Xandarth on November 21, 2013, 10:04:52 AM ---Her character seems to be intended entirely for titillation. Making her Butters trophy girlfriend really just cemented her in the role in my mind. That whole development seemed to be pure fan service.
Hopefully Jim will prove me wrong and she'll develop some real skill or become useful to the group in someway beside from a cheap porn thrill for Dresden in future novels. At the moment, as soon as she appears in a novel I guess how many sentences before she's naked / naked and injured / kidnapped.
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Butters is not handsome or suave. He has mentioned that he has had trouble getting a girlfriend. Landing a hottie girlfriend who is a nice person and has your back is a good thing. I don't see Andie as just there for her looks. She is an Alpha werewolf and is a decent fighter. She is just frequently overmatched by enemies and serves the damsel in distress slot. Butters needed a girlfriend and he got Andi. A trophy girlfriend usually has no positive attributes but sex appeal. Toot is probably going to get Lacuna eventually also. I think there is an interesting short story and how Butters won Andi's heart.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Gman on November 21, 2013, 11:01:02 AM ---Butters is not handsome or suave. He has mentioned that he has had trouble getting a girlfriend. Landing a hottie girlfriend who is a nice person and has your back is a good thing. I don't see Andie as just there for her looks. She is an Alpha werewolf and is a decent fighter. She is just frequently overmatched by enemies and serves the damsel in distress slot. Butters needed a girlfriend and he got Andi. A trophy girlfriend usually has no positive attributes but sex appeal. Toot is probably going to get Lacuna eventually also. I think there is an interesting short story and how Butters won Andi's heart.
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Butters may not be what most would call handsome or suave, but he has a mind, proven to be braver than most, a very good sense of humor and imagination, add in scruples to call things as he sees them. Andi is not the teenage werewolf that we first meet in Fool Moon. Like the rest of the Alphas she has grown up and moved on. She is intelligent, maybe, just maybe she requires more than a "throphy" man on her arm! She sees Butters for what he is, and loves him for that reason... I'd be disappointed in Butters if all he required in a woman was good looks... No, the fact that she is hot is merely a bonus, they are together for other reasons.
Xandarth:
My trophy girlfriend comment is based on Butters being 42 years old and Andi being 28-29 years old.
Yes, stranger things have happened but due to the complete one dimensional nature of her character (Harry's known her for 9 years, played in a weekly RPG with her for about 7 and still we know nothing about her beyond the fact she has giant boobs, red hair and grows extra body hair on a fool moon. And we found all that out before Harry even learned her name) it's hard to see her as anything beyond a perk Butters picked up when he finally recently leveled up.
As I said, I hope we see more character development for them both later and see that Butters has made progress to dealing with interpersonal relationships and we see Andi fulfill a role beyond "naked helpless female" (she's a college graduate, surely she's got some skills or abilities worth mentioning) but if Jim's just gonna keep writing about Andi in the same way, I wouldn't bothered if she didn't turn up in another DF book again.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Xandarth on November 21, 2013, 05:20:19 PM ---My trophy girlfriend comment is based on Butters being 42 years old and Andi being 28-29 years old.
Yes, stranger things have happened but due to the complete one dimensional nature of her character (Harry's known her for 9 years, played in a weekly RPG with her for about 7 and still we know nothing about her beyond the fact she has giant boobs, red hair and grows extra body hair on a fool moon. And we found all that out before Harry even learned her name) it's hard to see her as anything beyond a perk Butters picked up when he finally recently leveled up.
As I said, I hope we see more character development for them both later and see that Butters has made progress to dealing with interpersonal relationships and we see Andi fulfill a role beyond "naked helpless female" (she's a college graduate, surely she's got some skills or abilities worth mentioning) but if Jim's just gonna keep writing about Andi in the same way, I wouldn't bothered if she didn't turn up in another DF book again.
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Then again, beyond fun and games with the exception of Billy and Georgia how well does Harry know the Alphas? Just because both he and Andi play the group game, how often have they really talked? Billy and Georgia have found time to go to college and become professionals there is no reason that Andi couldn't have as well..
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