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Meta concept of how the DF will/is playing out [CD, MM and BAT Spoilers]
knnn:
--- Quote from: Serack on July 12, 2013, 01:04:37 AM ---the reason given for why it would open elsewhere was different.
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Fair enough, but then you really do have a seeming contradiction re: the shed in TC, the Fetches in PG and Ways in general.
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: knnn on July 12, 2013, 03:51:36 AM ---Fair enough, but then you really do have a seeming contradiction re: the shed in TC, the Fetches in PG and Ways in general.
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the NN seems to change, albeit at a slow rate. Many of the predictions made by Maggie sr 40 years ago still work just fien, for example.
--- Quote from: peregrine on July 12, 2013, 03:38:47 AM ---And yet, still only a miniscule fraction of a fraction of a fraction of even our solar system, much less the universe as we know it.
Of course, if they can unfold those extra dimensions into something more akin to 3D space, then that's all fairly pointless, as a straight line can involve curves and other wacky spacetime shenanigans to make the distances whatever anyone wants.
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as the vast majority of the N N must be traveled by foot, the concept of it being much larger is irrelevant.
let's be honest, it would take you longer to get to the nearest star then the universe has time left
furthermore, Magic in the df seems to work much like gravity- it warps reality around it, in scale to the amount of magic. Thus, having the NN only be 'so large' sits with me just fine.
Tami Seven:
--- Quote from: Cozarkian on July 11, 2013, 09:56:07 PM ---The alternate universe story in Buffy is the classic "how the world would look if "x" didn't happen" story. Specifically, a scorned women has a wish that "Buffy never came to Sunnydale" (Harry never came to Chicago) granted, and the episode explores the effects that has on the various characters lives - most importantly that Buffy wasn't there to stop the big bad Master from Season 1. Interestingly, the events in the alternate universe play out in accordance with an important prophecy from the real world, with a different ultimate outcome, largely because Mirror Buffy (who is still the Slayer and still trying to save the world) is more of a ruthless warrior like the Morgan or the Merlin than a compassionate savior with loyal friends.
If he wanted to parallel that story, he'd have to change a defining moment in Harry's life and see what happens. For example, Harry might not have killed Justin or maybe he was never orphaned in the first place, which means Harry might never have stopped the Three Eye Drug and Victor Sells could be the kingpin of a magical drug cartel ruling Chicago.
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There is a certain perverse irony to the idea of using a "what if Harry never came to Chicago" considering Jim's story about how he originally wanted to set the Dresden Files in Missouri, but his teacher convinced him to choose another City.
If most of the Supernatural activities still occurred in Chicago, but Harry decided to settle down in ...which city was that again?....then a lot of things might never have happened.
knnn:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on July 12, 2013, 04:34:51 AM ---the NN seems to change, albeit at a slow rate. Many of the predictions made by Maggie sr 40 years ago still work just fien, for example.
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While probably correct, ^this^ has nothing to do with Harry's comment about how you can't follow a wizard into the NN because two different wizards opening a portal in the same place in RW will lead to radically different spots in the NN.
Serack:
--- Quote from: knnn on July 12, 2013, 03:51:36 AM ---Fair enough, but then you really do have a seeming contradiction re: the shed in TC, the Fetches in PG and Ways in general.
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At first I thought you ment The Shedd in SmF. If instead you mean the portal Harry used to get to Edinburg from Chicago (I think it was near a slaughterhouse) that was monitored by the contracted out P.I. and Mouse, yah, that certainly seems to contradict things. Plus Harry's experiences following his Mother's advice.
I think those apparent contradictions could be remedied by considering the intent though.
The underlying point I was trying to make though, is that it isn't necessarily a 1:1 topographical correlation between the mortal world and the NN.
I had a prof in my junior year who was lecturing on mathematical fields do a pretty good job of explaining how you could topographically map an infinite plane onto a sphere. That took some mind bending.
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