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[SERIES SPOILRS] Wow there is a lot to learn from some research on Tam Lin

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Lany79:
It is an interesting theory, Mac being Tam Lin or perhaps Merlin.

But there is a line from CD that makes me wonder if Mac isn't something else entirely. I don't have the book in front of me right now, but Sharkface does call Mac Watcher once or twice. There is a very specific class of being who were referred to as Watchers. The Grigori.

Patrick Bateman:

--- Quote from: Lany79 on April 23, 2013, 01:49:27 AM ---It is an interesting theory, Mac being Tam Lin or perhaps Merlin.

But there is a line from CD that makes me wonder if Mac isn't something else entirely. I don't have the book in front of me right now, but Sharkface does call Mac Watcher once or twice. There is a very specific class of being who were referred to as Watchers. The Grigori.

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Yea I think this has been mentioned a couple of times - warrants some more research in my opinion.

madness:
I still prefer the Gregori angle.

There isn't enough evidence to prove anything one way or the other but until something else comes along I think that the Gregori theory is the most likely.

Angels already have a lot of restrictions on interfering.  An angel who 'fell' for refusing to get involved when ordered to do so and who was somehow pardoned seems like someone who might be REALLY restricted in their ability to take action or get involved in events.

Lany79:

--- Quote from: madness on April 23, 2013, 02:01:08 AM ---I still prefer the Gregori angle.

There isn't enough evidence to prove anything one way or the other but until something else comes along I think that the Gregori theory is the most likely.

Angels already have a lot of restrictions on interfering.  An angel who 'fell' for refusing to get involved when ordered to do so and who was somehow pardoned seems like someone who might be REALLY restricted in their ability to take action or get involved in events.

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Perhaps I'm thinking of something else, but weren't the Grigori cast out, as it were, not because of refusing to to get involved, but because they fathered the Nephilim? So, perhaps Mac does indeed have a child out there somewhere.

Orbweaver:
Well. If the Sidhe do indeed have a debt to Hell that is paid on a once a decade basis, based on the Tam Lin research- we may have how Jim came up with the plot for this book. Rather than the usual terms of the debt being met, Mab (or someone on Hell's side) negotiated the theft of the artifact in Hades' lair for Skin Game instead.

It strikes me as being a bit off, though, because the original terms were more about mortal sacrifice- something Hell regards as its bread and butter. Holy Grail Speculation about the artifact's nature coming in three... two... one...:D

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