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[SERIES SPOILRS] Wow there is a lot to learn from some research on Tam Lin
Darkest-Before-Dawn:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on April 21, 2013, 10:28:15 PM ---Part of me wants to think Mac is Tam Lin, like many others have speculated on. And in the story in my head, Tam Lin was the WK for the previous WQ, and was freed by his true love on Halloween. Then he had a daughter with his true love, and that daughter later became Mab. Mab keeps her father alive, as a last link to her mortality.
But I also sometimes think Mac is Merlin Emrys, who had a child (Mab) with Nimue. And then his daughter became the WQ. And Mab keeps her father alive, as a last link to her mortality.
Basically, I think Mac is Mab's father, and I'll sell out to any theory that can work that into it.
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Oh I hadn't heard the Mac as Tam Lin theory before, I quite like that (not sure I'm buying into him being Mab's dad though ;) )
Tenuous support for that idea could come from the fact that one of the biggest pieces of dialogue we've ever had from Mac was in response to Harry telling him about Maggie. Since the myth of Tam Lin often features the young woman returning pregnant, maybe in the Dresdenverse this fatherhood was what caused Mac to embark upon discarding the Winter Knight mantle.
Quote from CD: "Something like this will test you like nothing else" Mac said "You're going to find out who you are, Harry. You're going to find out which principles you'll stand by to your death- and which lines you'll cross."
Certainly evokes images of Mac going on some kind of quest to discard the mantle. Food for thought, at least.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Darkest-Before-Dawn on April 21, 2013, 11:54:57 PM ---Oh I hadn't heard the Mac as Tam Lin theory before, I quite like that (not sure I'm buying into him being Mab's dad though ;) )
Tenuous support for that idea could come from the fact that one of the biggest pieces of dialogue we've ever had from Mac was in response to Harry telling him about Maggie. Since the myth of Tam Lin often features the young woman returning pregnant, maybe in the Dresdenverse this fatherhood was what caused Mac to embark upon discarding the Winter Knight mantle.
Quote from CD: "Something like this will test you like nothing else" Mac said "You're going to find out who you are, Harry. You're going to find out which principles you'll stand by to your death- and which lines you'll cross."
Certainly evokes images of Mac going on some kind of quest to discard the mantle. Food for thought, at least.
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It was Mac's speech about fatherhood, combined with the description of Mab just staring down at Mac in CD, that invoked the father/daughter idea.
madness:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on April 22, 2013, 12:56:51 AM ---It was Mac's speech about fatherhood, combined with the description of Mab just staring down at Mac in CD, that invoked the father/daughter idea.
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This is right off the top of my head and I haven't thought out the details but wouldn't Mac/Tam Lin being one of Mab's former lovers (and perhaps the father of one of her daughters) account for that?
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: madness on April 22, 2013, 03:09:30 AM ---This is right off the top of my head and I haven't thought out the details but wouldn't Mac/Tam Lin being one of Mab's former lovers (and perhaps the father of one of her daughters) account for that?
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Well, Mac and Maeve don't show any familiarity in PG when Maeve is in his pub. And he and Sarissa are somewhat comfortable around each other in CD, but I wouldn't say they're overly familiar. And Sarissa doesn't seem that concerned when Maeve shoots him; it was Justine that moved to his side. (queue the Justine=Mab's Daughter conspirators)
And there's a "weird" factor if Mac is Mab's former lover. Mab keeping a mortal lover alive for 1,000 years but not being with him is weird.
Him being her father fits better in my head. He was free from Winter, but then his daughter got pulled in. It'd be a parallel to Harry's relationship with Molly, where he tried to keep her safe, and it ended up costing her.
Maredudd:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on April 21, 2013, 10:28:15 PM ---Part of me wants to think Mac is Tam Lin, like many others have speculated on. And in the story in my head, Tam Lin was the WK for the previous WQ, and was freed by his true love on Halloween. Then he had a daughter with his true love, and that daughter later became Mab. Mab keeps her father alive, as a last link to her mortality.
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I am officially behind this one . . .
Best theory I've seen yet for who Mac is . . . and he's a signatory on Mab's accords!
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