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Has Mab become something more? [CD Spoilers]

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Mira:

--- Quote ---1. Mab miscalculated and Slate is not as strong as she expected.
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  But is this true?  I mean Sarissa states to Harry that Slade didn't begin as the weak thug/monster that he knew.  So can it all be blamed on the effects of the mantle?  Or were other forces at work here?  Aurora was mad and talked Slade into murdering her own Knight. How did this come about?  What persuaded Slade to even conspire against his Queen, Mab?   I do not believe these events all happened in a vacuum. 

Lea got infected by way of the knife,gotten at that infamous party that a lot of other supernatural powers were in attendance.  Contact with her and or the knife infected Maeve.  We have the word of Mab on that.  Contact with either could have infected Slade, he is a mortal so the effects of Nemesis might work quicker in him.  However that still doesn't explain Aurora's madness.  Did she just go insane?  Or was she also infected by Nemesis?  If so, how?  I submit that Nemesis was indeed behind it.

Who stood to gain if Mab went down?  And in her place a spoiled spiteful child to paraphrase Mother Summer replaces her...   Who is going to command Winter's Army against the Outsiders and guard the Outer Gates if Mab goes down?  An infected, spoiled, spiteful child, Maeve.

Summer is there to keep Winter in check, but not to defeat her..  So what were Aurora's motives for wanting Mab brought down?  Who stood to gain by that?  Outsiders, Nemesis.. So it stands to reason that Aurora was infected, she in turn came in contact with Slade and brought him into her conspiracy to over throw Mab..  How did that come about?  Did Slade routinely come in contact with the Summer Court? If not, who ordered him there?  If it wasn't Mab, it had to have been Maeve..  Maeve, who may very well have been infected at the time..  If she sweetened the deal with sex, in turn infected Slade..  Slade coming in contact with Aurora, in turn infected her.  She being mad, and Slade being mad, then conspired to kill her Knight and frame Mab for it.  Maybe that was the bigger game that Mab finally figured out, why she decided to kill her daughter rather than try to cure her like she did Lea?  Or was Maeve just too far gone?

Arjan:
Mab clearly stated in summer knight that she had let Maeve handle the hired help. Bob told Harry the knights were like paper cups, discardable. Clearly under normal circumstances it was not that important who the knight was and Maeve could afford it the recruit a mediocre knight that functioned more as a plaything and as a prop for her image. Or to use Mabs words to indulge herself.

And it takes effort to get and maintain a good knight. Maeve is lazy.

But now Mab has work to do. We are near a crisis and Mab decided to wait years to get a knight with some promise. She took the knight from Maeve before she knew Maeve was infected. For that she has to handle Harry and if that means dredging up the remnants of her soul she will do so. It was never completely lost it was just irrelevant compared to nature and purpose.

Mira:

--- Quote ---Mab clearly stated in summer knight that she had let Maeve handle the hired help. Bob told Harry the knights were like paper cups, discardable. Clearly under normal circumstances it was not that important who the knight was and Maeve could afford it the recruit a mediocre knight that functioned more as a plaything and as a prop for her image. Or to use Mabs words to indulge herself.
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  The bigger picture is, unknown to Mab at the time, Maeve was infected and began to conspire against her.  As we saw in CDs she was able to convince Lily of Mab's madness.. So somehow she managed to spread the infection to Aurora, who succumbed more quickly to Nemesis, who was willing to go along with the plot to murder her own Knight and implicate Mab, thus making Maeve the eventual Queen.  It was easy too, considering that Mab did let her handle things like her Knight, Slade.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mira on March 06, 2013, 06:16:03 AM ---  The bigger picture is, unknown to Mab at the time, Maeve was infected and began to conspire against her.  As we saw in CDs she was able to convince Lily of Mab's madness.. So somehow she managed to spread the infection to Aurora, who succumbed more quickly to Nemesis, who was willing to go along with the plot to murder her own Knight and implicate Mab, thus making Maeve the eventual Queen.  It was easy too, considering that Mab did let her handle things like her Knight, Slade.

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I think that under normal circumstances the ladies handle the knights because they are closest to the mortal world. Mab stepped in because it was needed even before she knew why.

huangjimmy108:

--- Quote from: Arjan on March 06, 2013, 06:06:15 AM ---Mab clearly stated in summer knight that she had let Maeve handle the hired help. Bob told Harry the knights were like paper cups, discardable. Clearly under normal circumstances it was not that important who the knight was and Maeve could afford it the recruit a mediocre knight that functioned more as a plaything and as a prop for her image. Or to use Mabs words to indulge herself.

And it takes effort to get and maintain a good knight. Maeve is lazy.

But now Mab has work to do. We are near a crisis and Mab decided to wait years to get a knight with some promise. She took the knight from Maeve before she knew Maeve was infected. For that she has to handle Harry and if that means dredging up the remnants of her soul she will do so. It was never completely lost it was just irrelevant compared to nature and purpose.

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Which suggest that having a strong knight like Harry is at best unnessasary and at worst dangerous under normal conditions. Mab clearly did not care what kind of knight Maeve hired and after she finds out that Maeve hired a weak knight she did not intervened.

If this is true, what will happened when Harry is done doing Mab's bidding? When all the problem is solved and the situation is back to normal, will Mab consider Harry to dangerous to live? What do you do to your soldiers when the war is over and there is no enemy to fight anymore? What do you do to the only member of your court that you are vulnarable to?

Oh, Crap!

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