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Has Mab become something more? [CD Spoilers]
Mira:
--- Quote from: Gman on March 05, 2013, 08:31:40 PM ---Possibly, but if Maeve recently did a good job as WL then got infected before Summer Knight and then right after did an awful job and neglected her duties as WL it should have gotten Mab and Winter's attention that something was majorly wrong and Maeve was infected. I think Maeve was doing a poor job for a while and Nemesis just enhanced the negative aspects of Maeve.
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Possible, but not a given, remember that Mab was occupied with her own problems during SK, so she might not notice anything amiss with Maeve. Though apparently Slade was chummy both with Maeve and Aurora. Also Lea was still doing duty as Harry's godmother in SK, so though she was infected, she had already received the knife at Bianca's party, on the surface nothing seemed overtly wrong with her. Now it is possible that Slade had gotten infected as well at some point and this led to his treason against Mab by the murder of the Summer Knight.
Veritas:
--- Quote from: Mira on March 05, 2013, 08:37:02 PM --- Possible, but not a given, remember that Mab was occupied with her own problems during SK, so she might not notice anything amiss with Maeve. Though apparently Slade was chummy both with Maeve and Aurora. Also Lea was still doing duty as Harry's godmother in SK, so though she was infected, she had already received the knife at Bianca's party, on the surface nothing seemed overtly wrong with her. Now it is possible that Slade had gotten infected as well at some point and this led to his treason against Mab by the murder of the Summer Knight.
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I don't think Slate was infected because if he was would Mab allow him into her bower( implied sex by Lea in PG) and risk an infection? I don't think that would be logical. Also, if he was infected, and Mab was aware, I think it unfair that she would torture only him but offer help to Lea and Maeve. If this is the case, it seems to reveal a sort of "my knight is expendable but my fae kin are not."
Gman:
--- Quote from: Veritas on March 05, 2013, 11:03:23 PM ---I don't think Slate was infected because if he was would Mab allow him into her bower( implied sex by Lea in PG) and risk an infection? I don't think that would be logical. Also, if he was infected, and Mab was aware, I think it unfair that she would torture only him but offer help to Lea and Maeve. If this is the case, it seems to reveal a sort of "my knight is expendable but my fae kin are not."
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I doubt Slate was infected. As to punishment, Slate was a traitor. Lea and Maeve were kinda possessed by Nemesis. Not the same.
huangjimmy108:
--- Quote from: Mira on March 05, 2013, 03:07:30 PM --- Slate may have been used in that way, but Slate was a monster and a thug, where Harry isn't. The difference is Slate's will was weak to begin with, so he was dominated by the mantle.. Slate as near as we can tell was an ordinary vanilla mortal before he wore the mantle so it presented all kinds of temptations in the direction of his baser nature, which he fully indulged in.. Both Mab and Maeve understood him very well and used his weaknesses against him. While the sex act with Mab may have been a ritual necessity when Harry became Knight... Harry didn't become totally seduced and addicted to the pleasure no matter how incredible the act with Mab.. Simply because he understands what Mab is. Maeve must have controlled Slade sexually and showed her lack of perception by thinking that she could seduce and control Harry in the same way, that of course backfired, because Harry also understood what Maeve was. However, Slade a guy from the streets did become addicted, it was also one of the ways Mab tormented him after he was found out to be a traitor.
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Think about it, Yeah, Slate is weak, he falls to the mantle and Maeve's ministration, but did Mab/Maeve hired him with the expectation that he will be a strong knight that is capable to control the mantle? If Slate is that weak, why is he is chosen to be a knight? Why is he not replaced long ago?
There is only a few likely answer for that question:
1. Mab miscalculated and Slate is not as strong as she expected.
2. A person of Harry's caliber is just so rare that Slate's weakness is just acceptable. Better a bad knight than no knight at all, Even though, Slate is weak he is still able to balanced the courts. He just have to exist and thats it.
3. Mab know Slate is weak and it is exactly what she wanted. After all, Mab is vulnarable to her knight and a weak knight is less dangerous. Things are good and well in winter and Mab have no need for a strong knight at the time.
Which of these reasons is more likely? Does Mab fails to see Slate's weakness or Is someone like Harry is just so rare that she cannot find a better replacement for slate, or Slate is just the kind of knight Mab wanted at the time. I personally think it is the third reason.
Harry is Mab's hand picked knight and thus she trained him personally. Extra hard. Because she have a special need considering the circumstances.
Mortax:
--- Quote from: Gman on March 05, 2013, 08:31:40 PM ---Possibly, but if Maeve recently did a good job as WL then got infected before Summer Knight and then right after did an awful job and neglected her duties as WL it should have gotten Mab and Winter's attention that something was majorly wrong and Maeve was infected. I think Maeve was doing a poor job for a while and Nemesis just enhanced the negative aspects of Maeve.
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The only thing that makes me hesitate to agree is this:
It's what, 4 or 5 years in between SK and Mab needing a translator? (Ie when she found out and became PISSED) That is not a terribly long time. It was about the same amount of time between that (her being pissed) and her telling Harry to kack her. For an immortal, that's not very long.
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