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Has Mab become something more? [CD Spoilers]
Gman:
--- Quote from: Rasins on March 05, 2013, 03:27:24 PM ---I think folks took my statement incorrectly. I do believe that Mab tried to find a solution to Maeve before deciding to have her removed. I don't believe she wanted to have an experienced Lady replaced, be it her daughter or not. I believe that as a tool, Maeve was probably pretty good at it until Nemesis got to her.
Also remember that Mab couldn't confront Maeve about her infection until CD, because if she Nemesis knew that Mab knew, Nemesis would have done more to have Mab replaced. Then again, maybe that is what the gambit on DR was really all about. Getting someone to off Mab on Halloween, allowing Maeve to step up. Only Mab had already seen it coming and put things in motion to allow for a smooth transition of power. Having Sarissa hang out with Harry so she'd be in a position to receive the WL mantle. And having a back-up (Molly) in case that didn't work out.
I don't believe Mab being there when it all went down was actually part of the plan. I think Mab was saddend at the need to remove a good tool even more so than having her daughter killed. The fact that it's a two-fer just confuses things. "Mab would sacrifice everything in winter ... and not even have to add sugar to her tea..." is great, but it doesn't really mean that she wants to do it. And anytime someone is of that mindset, they usually don't expect to send their own family to the front lines.
As to her soul. I think she still has her soul. But if you look at it as though it's on a spectrum from light (heavely) to black (hellish), her search for and grasping for power has pushed her toward the black end of the spectrum. CAN she be bought back to the light end? Probably. But it'd take a GREAT DEAL of changes for it to occur, and according to the Mothers it would take a great deal of time.
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Look at Maeve's actions before she was taken by Nemesis. She gave he sister Salrissa a real hard time. She chose a looser WK (Slate). Look how she acted at her Court, torturing mortals for example. Mab does not go out of her way to be cruel. She lays the smack down on those who act against her. Not random cruelty. She gave Harry a hard time when he was appointed by Mommy Mab to find who stole the SK mantle instead of helping Winter and vindicating Mommy. In other words by Maeve's actions she was not doing a great job as WL. She was acting as a spoiled teenager when she is centuries old. I think Nemesis inflated Maeve's jealousy of Mab. Lea wanted to be cured and fought Nemesis, Maeve embraced Nemesis. I think Mab failed to discipline Maeve and spoiled her instead of making her a proper WL. Salrissa would have probably done a better job even though she didn't want to be WL. Molly will probably do a better job.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Gman on March 05, 2013, 06:32:30 PM ---Look at Maeve's actions before she was taken by Nemesis. She gave he sister Salrissa a real hard time. She chose a looser WK (Slate). Look how she acted at her Court, torturing mortals for example. Mab does not go out of her way to be cruel. She lays the smack down on those who act against her. Not random cruelty. She gave Harry a hard time when he was appointed by Mommy Mab to find who stole the SK mantle instead of helping Winter and vindicating Mommy. In other words by Maeve's actions she was not doing a great job as WL. She was acting as a spoiled teenager when she is centuries old. I think Nemesis inflated Maeve's jealousy of Mab. Lea wanted to be cured and fought Nemesis, Maeve embraced Nemesis. I think Mab failed to discipline Maeve and spoiled her instead of making her a proper WL. Salrissa would have probably done a better job even though she didn't want to be WL. Molly will probably do a better job.
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As of Summer Knight she might have already been infected.
Rasins:
--- Quote from: Gman on March 05, 2013, 06:32:30 PM ---In other words by Maeve's actions she was not doing a great job as WL.
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Actually we can't really speak to that very much, not knowing what the actual duties of the WL are. For all we know, her actual duties may have been to pop out some changlings and practice being cruel.
--- Quote ---I think Mab failed to discipline Maeve and spoiled her instead of making her a proper WL. Salrissa would have probably done a better job even though she didn't want to be WL. Molly will probably do a better job.
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See above. That being the case, I actually agree with you. I bet she hasn't been doing a proper job for quite awhile now, even before the Nemesis infection.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on March 05, 2013, 06:48:42 PM --- As of Summer Knight she might have already been infected.
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very likely because It must have been the first thing the newly infected Lea did.
It is quite possible that Slate actually followed Maeves orders all the time or that Aurora was infected via Maeve.
Gman:
--- Quote from: Mira on March 05, 2013, 06:48:42 PM --- As of Summer Knight she might have already been infected.
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Possibly, but if Maeve recently did a good job as WL then got infected before Summer Knight and then right after did an awful job and neglected her duties as WL it should have gotten Mab and Winter's attention that something was majorly wrong and Maeve was infected. I think Maeve was doing a poor job for a while and Nemesis just enhanced the negative aspects of Maeve.
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