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Has Mab become something more? [CD Spoilers]
Arjan:
--- Quote from: huangjimmy108 on March 06, 2013, 07:23:30 AM ---Which suggest that having a strong knight like Harry is at best unnessasary and at worst dangerous under normal conditions. Mab clearly did not care what kind of knight Maeve hired and after she finds out that Maeve hired a weak knight she did not intervened.
If this is true, what will happened when Harry is done doing Mab's bidding? When all the problem is solved and the situation is back to normal, will Mab consider Harry to dangerous to live? What do you do to your soldiers when the war is over and there is no enemy to fight anymore? What do you do to the only member of your court that you are vulnarable to?
Oh, Crap!
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Mab is not really vulnerable to Harry except maybe under very special circumstances which are easy to avoid. Mab takes the bond between queen and vassal seriously. Harry does so as well. When everything becomes quiet after the BAT Harry and Mab will have a better understanding of each other. There will be no reason for Mab to do anything drastic to Harry so she will not. She just keeps him as her knight.
Besides, Molly can handle him :)
And will Harry ever be as dangerous as Mab? ;D
KrelianZG:
--- Quote from: huangjimmy108 on March 06, 2013, 07:23:30 AM ---Which suggest that having a strong knight like Harry is at best unnessasary and at worst dangerous under normal conditions. Mab clearly did not care what kind of knight Maeve hired and after she finds out that Maeve hired a weak knight she did not intervened.
If this is true, what will happened when Harry is done doing Mab's bidding? When all the problem is solved and the situation is back to normal, will Mab consider Harry to dangerous to live? What do you do to your soldiers when the war is over and there is no enemy to fight anymore? What do you do to the only member of your court that you are vulnarable to?
Oh, Crap!
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She hadn't intervened with previous WKs because at the time, they were adequate. Not anything Mab could use for important things, but enough to fill the "enforcer of Winter interests" role in the mortal world. I'd guess in the last few centuries, the Knights have mostly been killing mortals and low-tier supernatural beings that happen to be doing things that conflict with Winter's interests.
Harry, on the other hand, is an exceptionally strong wizard, a fairly good detective, AND a Starborn. Mab knew that Nemesis had infiltrated the Winter Court to a shocking degree. Her two most valuable assets in the Court were corrupted, and only one could really be saved. The time for thugs was over, and Mab wanted a Knight that could actually use the mantle to aid Winter in the real battle.
As for when it's all over? I'm in the camp that believes Mab (the individual we know now) won't make it through the BAT. A certain young lady will be filling those shoes, IMO....
But even if Mab survives, why would that change anything? If Harry proves to be so valuable that he survives and helps Winter through what is shaping up to be a supernatural apocalypse, I think he'll be in a good position to re-negotiate his contract :).
Assuming Harry makes it through everything and is still the WK at the end, I see him taking on a role more like Kringle in the Winter Court. Taking care of the real important stuff, respected by all the Fae, and not really bothered by obligations unless it's really important. (I do think Molly....er, "Mab", will have a hand in that...).
Mira:
--- Quote ---I think that under normal circumstances the ladies handle the knights because they are closest to the mortal world. Mab stepped in because it was needed even before she knew why.
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Which says that Maeve was infected and conspiring against dear old mum or at least to try and start a war in the Nevernever way beck in SK thus leaving an opening for the Outsiders to breech the Gates.
huangjimmy108:
--- Quote from: Arjan on March 06, 2013, 08:01:23 AM ---Mab is not really vulnerable to Harry except maybe under very special circumstances which are easy to avoid. Mab takes the bond between queen and vassal seriously. Harry does so as well. When everything becomes quiet after the BAT Harry and Mab will have a better understanding of each other. There will be no reason for Mab to do anything drastic to Harry so she will not. She just keeps him as her knight.
Besides, Molly can handle him :)
And will Harry ever be as dangerous as Mab? ;D
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Yeah, I suppose you are right. Mab is not only strong because she held the winter queen's mantle. Able to feel some love for her own daughter shows that her soul might still survive deep down and able to keep a miniscule portion of your soul after baring the winter queen's mantle for a thousand years show that Mab is a frighteningly strong individual. I think Mab is secure enough in herself and in her power not to view Harry as a threat after things settled down.
I still believe a less secure queen might react badly to a knight as powerful as Harry though. I suspect part of the reason why a knight is kept zonk out with drugs and seks is to keep him from plotting against the queen.
Mira:
--- Quote from: huangjimmy108 on March 06, 2013, 02:41:31 PM ---Yeah, I suppose you are right. Mab is not only strong because she held the winter queen's mantle. Able to feel some love for her own daughter shows that her soul might still survive deep down and able to keep a miniscule portion of your soul after baring the winter queen's mantle for a thousand years show that Mab is a frighteningly strong individual. I think Mab is secure enough in herself and in her power not to view Harry as a threat after things settled down.
I still believe a less secure queen might react badly to a knight as powerful as Harry though. I suspect part of the reason why a knight is kept zonk out with drugs and seks is to keep him from plotting against the queen.
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I don't think it has anything to do with Mab's strength... I am willing to be that Maeve was allowed to pick her Knight just like Lily was able to chose Fix.
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