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Proof that Time Travel Harry did not fix Little Chicago?? (CD Spoilers)
wizard nelson:
ummm you ever read the merlin conspiracy? you might like it. your island sounds like romanov's island. different points in time and space all connected by the nexus that is his actual portion of land existing in its own timeframe.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: wizard nelson on February 12, 2013, 05:39:52 PM ---ummm you ever read the merlin conspiracy? you might like it. your island sounds like romanov's island. different points in time and space all connected by the nexus that is his actual portion of land existing in its own timeframe.
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Nope, never read it. I'll give it a try. I don't have anything else to read right now, so I'm spending too many hours on this site talking about Dresden. :D
robertltux:
these timey whimy whiblley wobbley posts are fun.
I would like to see a DR Who/ Dresden crossover story. Would Gallefrian tech survive being close to HBCD?? Is the ZaGuard big enough to move the TARDIS??
Is The Well basically a DV "Tardis" that can't move??
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on February 12, 2013, 03:56:22 PM ---The whole point of the loop/bridge time-travel concept proposed here is that there wouldn't be a time where it didn't happen.
From Uriel's perspective, time is not linear. Stand back far enough, and it's apparently wibbly wobbly. By creating a permanent temporal bridge, those 5 times are linked to occur at the same time the first time. There was no time he didn't make the prison.
Picture a piece of string. It's linear, as mortals see time. Now imagine that Merlin got help creating a loop, where two parts of the string overlap, like this:
Where the string overlaps itself is two separate points of time. Now imagine a pin getting pushed through the string, bonding the two points together. That makes them permanently bound together. Only instead of just one loop for two points, there are 4 loops for 5 points of time.
The reason Ms Duck has an issue with it is because messing with time like that would seem to be a very high-level trick. She thinks that it would take a WG-level talent to do it.
But Merlin clearly did it, presumably with help. We can either assume that TWG helped, but if so, why did TWG both involving a mortal at all? Or we can assume that one or multiple lower-tier powers (Mab, Odin, Uriel) worked together to do it.
We know that the Ladies working together were able to channel their attack across multiple times. So the idea that there are time-travel capabilities among the powers isn't outrageous. By nature, Mab should be more powerful than Maeve in that aspect.
Again, the theory breaks down at why do it. There was clearly a major, reality-level need for Merlin to create the DR prison. If it's as difficult as Duck suspects, then it would require a reality-level need for Harry to go back. And I can't think of one.
But if it doesn't take as much power to create a single bridge, and there were a really-really-important-reason for him to go back, then Mab and others might work together to get it done. I still don't know why, though.
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couple of issues: you are assuming maeve and lilly created the time warp, and the weapons. I find that assumption dubious; Maeve was the bait, not the mastermind. She was standing at ground zero for crying out loud.
HHWx , who is in Mab's power level is to my mind a far more likely suspect.
second, your concept of time travel is more of the liberal rts type then the hard sci fi type; which works well for some worlds but not as well for Jim's. Conservation of energy exists; its not just the change you have to account for, its the sending the person back to make the change in the first place.
What Odin is saying the farther you send someone back, the more power it takes, and he's also saying its so dang expensive that even people like Mab don't do it- that's why she uses precog instead, where she looks into possible futures and makes changes in the now to make those futures more likely.
which is why Rashid and Mab are far more likely suspects; both can see the possible future, and both had access to the now that was required.
;)
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: wizard nelson on February 12, 2013, 04:54:24 PM --- although its virtually against my nature, i feel i must give you a virtual hug.... *hugs*
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Thank you kindly. *hug*
(I also like Harry going back because he finds out he went back because it's fun ammo for the free will argument.)
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