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wizard nelson:
(click to show/hide)well its not so much that i doubt it as this: odin at some point started out in his most original form as a sidhe. after gaining followers and acruing power through various mean, he became more, hence his ability to handle iron. odin still holds(or perhaps captured it somehow, when people first believed in santa?) the kringle mantle which is a fae mantle. idk if as kringle iron becomes his kryptonite though... so yes, odin was fae, he holds a fae mantle. but he himself is not beholden to the nature of being of fairy anymore. specifically you might say its because he has his own demense  :-\ but so does erlking, so thats inconclusive evidence.

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--- Quote from: wizard nelson on December 31, 2012, 12:01:13 PM ---well its not so much that i doubt it as this: odin at some point started out in his most original form as a sidhe. after gaining followers and acruing power through various mean, he became more, hence his ability to handle iron. odin still holds(or perhaps captured it somehow, when people first believed in santa?) the kringle mantle which is a fae mantle. idk if as kringle iron becomes his kryptonite though... so yes, odin was fae, he holds a fae mantle. but he himself is not beholden to the nature of being of fairy anymore. specifically you might be able to say its because he has his own demense  :-\ but so does erlking, so thats inconclusive evidence.

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I don't think this is true because Odin himself has 0 connections to Faeries in any of the myths. Heck, the only Fae connections I can see with Santa are the "elves" (may be brownies in the Dresdenverse) that work in his workshop.

wizard nelson:

--- Quote from: 123456789blaaa on December 31, 2012, 12:10:34 PM --- (click to show/hide)I don't think this is true because Odin himself has 0 connections to Faeries in any of the myths. Heck, the only Fae connections I can see with Santa are the "elves" (may be brownies in the Dresdenverse) that work in his workshop.
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(click to show/hide) then maybe he holds the all-father mantle...? because at one point when he was the main god worshipped i feel he must have rivaled mab in power. it seems natural to me he has grown beyond simple sidhe life. not all of the NN is fairy you know...

KevinSig:

--- Quote from: 123456789blaaa on December 31, 2012, 11:56:41 AM --- (click to show/hide)My thinking is that Odin turns into a Fae when he dons the Mantle of Santa Claus. Also, I can't recall Santa lying anywhere in CD.
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(click to show/hide)Not so much lying, but speaking plainly.  Something you don't get from the lesser queens much.  Heck, Cat Sith & Lea get more tricksey than Santa seemed to be.

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--- Quote from: KevinSig on December 31, 2012, 12:59:13 PM ---Not so much lying, but speaking plainly.  Something you don't get from the lesser queens much.  Heck, Cat Sith & Lea get more tricksey than Santa seemed to be.

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Well that's more of a personality trait of most of the Fae than an ironclad rule (like the no-lying thing is). IMO it wouldn't fit for Santa to be deceptive and tricksy, it completely goes against his image. Besides the Little Folk aren't deceptive or tricksy at all (from what we've seen). Trolls, rawheads, and shellycobs don't seem so cunning either.

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