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Reforging a Mantle + My cup is full [CD Spoilers]
Ms Duck:
the big problem for me is Jim is sometimes using definition three:
--- Quote ---something that covers, envelops, or conceals: the mantle of darkness.
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when Eb is talking about mantle, as in the warden of DR, hes talking about the title
when Odin talks about mantle, as in santa clause, hes talking about mask or disguise he wears, an alternate self
and I dont think its possible to 'forge' mantles one and two together. they are seperate things. ;)
I would sugest then the Term Title for definition two, and epithets or masks for definition three( which would be the propper religous term)
Athena had 74 titles, but only 14 epithets; that is entirely different names she was worshipped under, with different attributes.
Harry wore the grey mantle of the warden
Harry bore the Title of warden of Demon Reach
Harry is the epithet of the Winter Knight
and for last case, Id just call em powers
Harry wields the power of soulfire
Rasins:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on January 14, 2013, 10:07:59 PM ---the big problem for me is Jim is sometimes using definition three:
when Eb is talking about mantle, as in the warden of DR, hes talking about the title
when Odin talks about mantle, as in santa clause, hes talking about mask or disguise he wears, an alternate self
and I dont think its possible to 'forge' mantles one and two together. they are seperate things. ;)
I would sugest then the Term Title for definition two, and epithets or masks for definition three( which would be the propper religous term)
Athena had 74 titles, but only 14 epithets; that is entirely different names she was worshipped under, with different attributes.
Harry wore the grey mantle of the warden
Harry bore the Title of warden of Demon Reach
Harry is the epithet of the Winter Knight
and for last case, Id just call em powers
Harry wields the power of soulfire
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Duck - I would suggest the term "Mask" for the second one. It's like a mask you use to disguise yourself (no one knew he was Odin while he wore it.)
An example of a title would be The Merlin, or the Za-Lord, Warden of the WC.
An example of a mantle would be Summer Lady, Winter Knight, WARDEN, (maybe GateKeeper, but I don't know if that comes with magical power or if it's just a title)
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: Rasins on January 14, 2013, 10:14:51 PM ---Duck - I would suggest the term "Mask" for the second one. It's like a mask you use to disguise yourself (no one knew he was Odin while he wore it.)
An example of a title would be The Merlin, or the Za-Lord, Warden of the WC.
An example of a mantle would be Summer Lady, Winter Knight, WARDEN, (maybe GateKeeper, but I don't know if that comes with magical power or if it's just a title)
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yes, thats defintion three.
One: a garment,or cloak
Two: a formal title
Three: an alternate identity, a mask, an epithet
KevinSig:
Well in my thinking, the Warden mantle might have a bit more going for it, than a normal position. Genius loci are spirit beings, and from the Darkhallow we know that Mantles are forged of similar stuff. Might explain why Mantles seem to have animus of their own.
Winter & Summer Mantles might be formed from genius loci, hence why they seem to reflect the seasons & nature. The Erlking King might be formed of dead hunter spirits.
All I'm saying that while Demonreach isn't exactly the same thing as the mantles of immortals, I don't think we can say that they are totally incompatible either.
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: KevinSig on January 15, 2013, 12:25:01 AM ---Well in my thinking, the Warden mantle might have a bit more going for it, than a normal position. Genius loci are spirit beings, and from the Darkhallow we know that Mantles are forged of similar stuff. Might explain why Mantles seem to have animus of their own.
Winter & Summer Mantles might be formed from genius loci, hence why they seem to reflect the seasons & nature. The Erlking King might be formed of dead hunter spirits.
All I'm saying that while Demonreach isn't exactly the same thing as the mantles of immortals, I don't think we can say that they are totally incompatible either.
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hmm interesting point ;)
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