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Reforging a Mantle + My cup is full [CD Spoilers]
aShorty21:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on January 14, 2013, 10:20:22 PM ---yes, thats defintion three.
One: a garment,or cloak
Two: a formal title
Three: an alternate identity, a mask, an epithet
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I was thinking more...
Zero: a garment,or cloak
One: a formal title
Two: a semi-aware power
Three: an alternate identity, a mask, an epithet
In that vernacular, You don't usually get 1 without 2. Or 0 without 1. sometimes you get 2 & 3 together.
Winter Knight, Lady, Queen, Mother are both 1 and 2. Za Lord is just 2. warden of the White Council is 0 and 1. Kris Kringle is 1, 2 & 3.
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: aShorty21 on January 15, 2013, 01:22:05 PM ---I was thinking more...
Zero: a garment,or cloak
One: a formal title
Two: a semi-aware power
Three: an alternate identity, a mask, an epithet
In that vernacular, You don't usually get 1 without 2. Or 0 without 1. sometimes you get 2 & 3 together.
Winter Knight, Lady, Queen, Mother are both 1 and 2. Za Lord is just 2. warden of the White Council is 0 and 1. Kris Kringle is 1, 2 & 3.
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enh im going by the order of the definitions in the dictionary :)
im not aware of 'mantle= power' beind used by anyone other then well, us. Does Jim even use 'mantle' for power in the books? Mehtinks we may be strecthing things here folks.
;D
aShorty21:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on January 15, 2013, 01:25:43 PM ---enh im going by the order of the definitions in the dictionary :)
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I was just trying to stick with my original numbering system :)
--- Quote ---im not aware of 'mantle= power' beind used by anyone other then well, us. Does Jim even use 'mantle' for power in the books? Mehtinks we may be strecthing things here folks.
;D
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I'm saying that 2 is a Butcher original. It is pretty much exactly what the Winter Knight power is.
Below is my inadequate long winded attempt to explain what I was trying to get at with definition 2.
--- Quote from: aShorty21 on January 14, 2013, 09:42:45 PM ---Another way to look at it is this... Think about the types of powers that could be transferred on Halloween. I think we can all realize that just raw magical potential could be transferred (whole or in part) between individuals. If that raw magical potential was tied up with being Santa Claus, then if you get enough of the bits you are essentialy Santa Claus. You are what you eat. The same could not be said of being VP of accounting for Intel. VP of accounting isn't the type of power that can be transfered on Halloween, therefore it falls under Definition 1 and not Definition 2.
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Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: aShorty21 on January 15, 2013, 01:30:02 PM ---I was just trying to stick with my original numbering system :)
I'm saying that 2 is a Butcher original. It is pretty much exactly what the Winter Knight power is.
Below is my inadequate long winded attempt to explain what I was trying to get at with definition 2.
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I suspect WK is a mantle in the odin/ santa pov; it comes with more then a power, it has an identity, awareness and name of tis own.
that's why no matter who the winter lady, for example, is they become the winter lady. thats why they all look like twins, and given time call each other sister even tho they obivously are not.
WK is the same sort of thing ;)
aShorty21:
--- Quote from: Ms Duck on January 15, 2013, 02:25:12 PM ---I suspect WK is a mantle in the odin/ santa pov; it comes with more then a power, it has an identity, awareness and name of tis own.
that's why no matter who the winter lady, for example, is they become the winter lady. thats why they all look like twins, and given time call each other sister even tho they obivously are not.
WK is the same sort of thing ;)
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Agreed. Which is my definition 2 :) Or at least what I ment it to be.
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