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Cold Days Spoilers- Who isn't your Nemesis?
sjsharks:
--- Quote from: Aluman on November 29, 2012, 07:37:04 PM ---I meant I wasn't sold, because Harry had already been a thorn in his side and would have been removed at the mansion fucking the rules of guests.
In fact, I think I can state that the White King isn't infected, because he still put propriety on the standards of his court and behaved in a normal manner. He utilized the outsiders as tools and weapons, but was still a weakling in the end of it because Harry's Mom's Curse. If he was infected the curse too Might have been shrugged off.
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The WK could have killed Harry, but it would have made him lose all of his power, and would have made him worthless to Nemesis.
Where do we have anything showing infection with Nemesis allowing for resistance of magic? I thought him shrugging magic off was more HWWB's work.
--- Quote from: Serack on November 29, 2012, 07:38:01 PM ---edit: Egad you people are posting fast
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way too freaking fast
--- Quote from: Aluman on November 29, 2012, 07:38:16 PM ---Ivy falls into the same category as Mab, Rashid and Demonreach. If she is infected the game is over and we have lost; therefor she hasn't been infected.
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a few things on this.
1. Ivy can possibly fight it with her massive amount of will power.
2. She has been in contact with an Outsider, and had an Outsider with her at one point
3. The end of the world is coming. And Harry's enemies are just getting stronger and stronger
4. Harry would hate to fight Ivy
seriously... 7 new posts while typing...
sjsharks:
--- Quote from: Serack on November 29, 2012, 07:47:29 PM ---Using the previous analysis done of the "Black Council" in the past as a stepping stone, it seems as though most of the beings that the Nemesis had infected and used had the common atribute of ambition. These people were not puppets though, but were being twisted towards Nemesis' goals.
This kinda brings up the question to me. Could Maeve not have known who was infected outside her sphere of influence (I.E. since she was not a sock puppet and thus wasn't omnicient on the Nemesis' plans) and thus was excited about a vector to Lara while being ignorant of her status? Thomas sure did make a big deal about Lara's actions changing lately. In an Ambitious nature. Which equates to two huge red flags to me.
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There could also be several... factions... of Nemesis or similar beings
sjsharks:
--- Quote from: sjsharks on November 29, 2012, 07:50:06 PM ---There could also be several... factions... of Nemesis or similar beings
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Actually, strike that. The Outsiders work together. All of them.
Cenphx:
Yes, the outsiders work together, but an infection mutates a bit inside each different person. I dont think we know enough about Nemesis to know if it would be the exact same in every person
Aluman:
--- Quote from: sjsharks on November 29, 2012, 07:49:22 PM ---The WK could have killed Harry, but it would have made him lose all of his power, and would have made him worthless to Nemesis.
Where do we have anything showing infection with Nemesis allowing for resistance of magic? I thought him shrugging magic off was more HWWB's work.
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We don't, but the fact he works with HWWB isn't a point that he would be infected, and the fact of the matter is he would be free of the curse if it was Nemesis protecting him instead of HWWB, as Nemesis is part of him and HWWB is just a servant of sorts.
I'm just saying assuming he is infected maybe a wrong step. Though if he is, Lara is as well as he is still alive.
--- Quote ---a few things on this.
1. Ivy can possibly fight it with her massive amount of will power.
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She has massive amounts of magic power, not will power. She has the will power of a young child.
--- Quote ---2. She has been in contact with an Outsider, and had an Outsider with her at one point
3. The end of the world is coming. And Harry's enemies are just getting stronger and stronger
4. Harry would hate to fight Ivy
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When did she have contact with an Outsider?
--- Quote ---seriously... 7 new posts while typing...
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I know I am missing like a third of them as this discussion is too much fun and I barely have time to keep up with you.
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