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PG: combining Neurovore and Knnn.
King Ash:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on May 07, 2012, 03:43:44 AM ---I was referring to when he first met the Scarecrow or was in the middle of running away from it.
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Judging from Harry's comments during the final fight that is because he was afraid of it. The fetch feeds on fear and the more fear you feel the less successful your magic is. I'll look for some quotes when I haves some more time.
Thork:
--- Quote from: Vairelome on May 07, 2012, 02:15:44 AM --- "Trying to overthrow Mab" is one idea, but that theory depends on the athame acting as a corrupting influence, so I don't buy it. "Fighting--and losing to--something powerful and Outsidery" better fits the data, in my opinion.
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There's textual support for this:
--- Quote ---Some of the strength seemed to ebb from her, and she suddenly seemed exhausted. “I grew too arrogant with the power I held. I thought I could overcome what stalks us all. Foolish. Milady Queen Mab taught me the error of my ways.”
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"What stalks us all" is pretty ambiguous. Death? Mortality? Who is "us all" -- all Fae? All Fae and humans together, since she's talking to Harry? The Walkers?
--- Quote from: King Ash on May 07, 2012, 04:03:12 AM ---Judging from Harry's comments during the final fight that is because he was afraid of it. The fetch feeds on fear and the more fear you feel the less successful your magic is. I'll look for some quotes when I haves some more time.
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Yeah, I think one valid reading of that is that Summer's fire gave Harry the mental "warmth" to charge his magic and wipe out his fear; not so much that Captain Kudzu was vulnerable to Summer Fire specifically, as a thing, but that Harry was able to defeat the Fetch because he was infused with Summer Fire and it helped him blank out his fear, charged his magic, refreshed his mana points, whatever, etc.
King Ash:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on May 07, 2012, 03:43:44 AM ---I was referring to when he first met the Scarecrow or was in the middle of running away from it.
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I went looking for it, but the closest thing that I could find was that Harry unleashed an enormous amount of magic including hellfire that should have knocked if halfway to Michigan but that it just stepped through it. I mention of cold or the magic dissapearing. Harry's comments at Arctis Tor about fear stopping it from working seems most likely.
King Ash:
--- Quote ---Yeah, I think one valid reading of that is that Summer's fire gave Harry the mental "warmth" to charge his magic and wipe out his fear; not so much that Captain Kudzu was vulnerable to Summer Fire specifically, as a thing, but that Harry was able to defeat the Fetch because he was infused with Summer Fire and it helped him blank out his fear, charged his magic, refreshed his mana points, whatever, etc.
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I dont think the Summer Fire wiped out his fear, as he specifically states that he had nothing left in him including fear and that he could beat it if he had enough strength to work magic. I think the Fire just recharged his magical tanks.
Vairelome:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on May 07, 2012, 02:55:04 AM ---It coming from Cowl, who when he's not out there faking Darkhallows to kill off Kemmlerites, is pretty much an Outsider sort of guy.
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Fair point, though for the other reasons I pointed out, I think it ends up being a red herring.
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on May 07, 2012, 02:55:04 AM ---because I think "possession" looks like a much better word.
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Quite possibly, though the next question would be, "What was the vector of the possessing influence?" and I think a hypothetical combat opponent fits better than the athame itself.
--- Quote from: Thork on May 07, 2012, 04:12:01 AM ---There's textual support for this:
--- Quote ---Some of the strength seemed to ebb from her, and she suddenly seemed exhausted. “I grew too arrogant with the power I held. I thought I could overcome what stalks us all. Foolish. Milady Queen Mab taught me the error of my ways.”
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"What stalks us all" is pretty ambiguous. Death? Mortality? Who is "us all" -- all Fae? All Fae and humans together, since she's talking to Harry? The Walkers?
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Yeah, that's the line I was looking for. As far as what "what stalks us all" is, my top two picks are "some hideously scary Fomor thing (with Outsider connections)" or HWWB. The first pick is due to the Fomor being ancient rivals of the Fae and probable post-Changes BC stooges (gives you "enemy of Winter" and "Outsider connections," respectively). The second pick is due to HWWB being a long-term threat to Lea's ward, an Outsider himself, and the eerie similarity in phrasing. (What stalks us all? He Who Walks Behind.)
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