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PG: combining Neurovore and Knnn.
vultur:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on May 07, 2012, 02:55:04 AM ---It coming from Cowl, who when he's not out there faking Darkhallows to kill off Kemmlerites, is pretty much an Outsider sort of guy.
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What about the Fomor (or rather Fomor-altered or whatever, since his magic seems human) theory? Have we actually seen him doing anything that's distinctly Outsidery? The uberghouls and the weird pterodactyl-comet in WN could just as easily be from the same sort of dark, creepy bits of the NN that the Fomor come from (and I think in GS they're described as an alliance of disparate stuff, not a single supernatural 'species').
Hmm, if we provisionally accept the fake Darkhallow idea, was the whole WN plot a fake too - specifically designed to lure in Harry? It seems the sort of thing that's practically designed for his intervention - hm, let's attack female practitioners right on Dresden's turf, since we know he can't stand to see women hurt and is unusually connected to the White Court for a wizard, great idea. Though this would probably require the 'why did you get Dresden involved' conversation Harry eavesdrops on to be fake, for at least one side...
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: vultur on May 07, 2012, 03:08:25 AM ---What about the Fomor (or rather Fomor-altered or whatever, since his magic seems human) theory?
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We know from "Even hand" what Fomor magic looks like, and to my mind that looks distinct enough from either the wizard-magic Cowl slams Harry about with in DB, or Outsider stuff, that I'm not minded to make the Fomor connection a high likelihood.
--- Quote --- Have we actually seen him doing anything that's distinctly Outsidery? The uberghouls and the weird pterodactyl-comet in WN could just as easily be from the same sort of dark, creepy bits of the NN that the Fomor come from
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I think Harry identifies the pterodactyl-comet and maybe also Vittorio's attack as feeling specifically outsidery.
--- Quote ---Hmm, if we provisionally accept the fake Darkhallow idea, was the whole WN plot a fake too - specifically designed to lure in Harry? It seems the sort of thing that's practically designed for his intervention - hm, let's attack female practitioners right on Dresden's turf, since we know he can't stand to see women hurt and is unusually connected to the White Court for a wizard, great idea.
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I think the explanation of that being a thing that had been hanging around White Court thinking for a goodly while that Lara pushed to an issue now so that Harry would stomp on it for her, which Harry figures out for himself, works. And I don't see any way Lara could be Cowl.
I read WN as Harry thwarting Cowl's primary plan - of getting Lord R kicked out as White King, preferably to have the Malvoras in so his agent Vittorio can inherit shortly thereafter and the White Court now take their orders from him - and doing reasonably well at thwarting Cowl's apparent back-up plan of "wipe them out. all of them." (I do credit Harry with some successes against evil. Really.
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote ---I think Harry identifies the pterodactyl-comet and maybe also Vittorio's attack as feeling specifically outsidery.
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Lash identifies Vittorio's attack as Outsidery, nothing was said about the firebird being Outsidery.
King Ash:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on May 07, 2012, 02:21:44 AM ---Didn't that cold power also block a massive force blast at one point? It seems less fire resistance and more magic resistance to me.
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Not that I saw on a quick read through. He throws fire at it which bounces off, sends a forzare to the ground at its feet, gets kicked around a few times, then realises that he has no fear left which is why his magic had an effect on the other fetches, then gets summer flame and BBQs it in a few strikes.
TheCuriousFan:
I was referring to when he first met the Scarecrow or was in the middle of running away from it.
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