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khatre:
--- Quote ---Keep in mind, the whispers in Harry's mind didn't actually stop due to the empowered steel circle around the coin. Lasciel's shadow was already firmly implanted in his noggin, and just decided to play along with his expectations. She also made it clear more than once that the circle would not block Harry from summoning the coin, either.
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Lash whispered to Harry. Lasciel did not. (at least before GS, GS and later different story)
Circles stop powers Inside the circle not outside. Harry was outside the circle thus he could take any action he wanted including break the circle and summon the coin. Lasciel was Inside the circle. People Inside circles can not effect anything outside the circle. I have never seen any conclusive proof that Lash was playing along with Harry's expectations about the circle isolating Lasciel.
DragonEyes:
--- Quote from: wyltok on March 14, 2012, 01:46:04 PM ---Fae are a species that literally grow in size as they grow in influence and power. Their evolution is at least partly due to their use of the Stone Table as a conduit of power and responsibility. They probably did not look human at all before our monkey forefathers descended from the trees, but were probably smart enough to change themselves once they realized how influential we were. Even so, they still retain quite a few non-human traits in their makeup.
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This is only known to be true at certain power levels. Past a certain point, size doesn't seem to matter anymore. Lea is described as being taller than Mab, but Mab is more powerful.
Paladino:
--- Quote from: wyltok on March 14, 2012, 01:46:04 PM ---Fae are a species that literally grow in size as they grow in influence and power. Their evolution is at least partly due to their use of the Stone Table as a conduit of power and responsibility. They probably did not look human at all before our monkey forefathers descended from the trees, but were probably smart enough to change themselves once they realized how influential we were. Even so, they still retain quite a few non-human traits in their makeup.
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So we could assume that their apparance and ways are much influenced by whom they interact in the mortal world? In other worlds the apparance they have now is not the same they used to? As they went on doing deals with Humans and interact with them is that they got to be what they are now?
I find hard to imagine they doing deals with anything before we showed.. Also If they were diferent then they are today, where they got the obligations/influence perk that allowed they to grow, if it didn't existed before mankind came along..
Orladdin:
--- Quote from: wyltok on March 14, 2012, 01:46:04 PM ---Fae are a species that literally grow in size as they grow in influence and power. Their evolution is at least partly due to their use of the Stone Table as a conduit of power and responsibility. They probably did not look human at all before our monkey forefathers descended from the trees, but were probably smart enough to change themselves once they realized how influential we were. Even so, they still retain quite a few non-human traits in their makeup.
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... either that, or we created them from our beliefs. Consider the Oblivion War: How that the faeries were not wiped out as planned because the Brothers Grimm published their book, reigniting interest and belief.
The Fae are simply spirits-- just very specific spirits with real, material bodies.
--- Quote from: DragonEyes on March 14, 2012, 02:02:39 PM ---This is only known to be true at certain power levels. Past a certain point, size doesn't seem to matter anymore. Lea is described as being taller than Mab, but Mab is more powerful.
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It could also be that fae can be whatever form they want to be, and they "feel" bigger when they have more power or influence.
wyltok:
--- Quote from: khatre on March 14, 2012, 01:59:35 PM ---Circles stop powers Inside the circle not outside.
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Actually, they work both ways. See Butters vs. Corpsetaker's ghosts, and Harry vs. Binder's Grey Men. Circles are nothing more than Magical Boundaries. They separate Here from There, but don't care whether you perceive Here to be inside or outside the circle.
--- Quote from: khatre on March 14, 2012, 01:59:35 PM ---Harry [...] could take any action he wanted including break the circle and summon the coin.
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That is a very good point. Free will, after all, is one of the things we know to break circles. So you're right; the circle was never intended to stop him from summoning the coin, and I was wrong to think that it would hinder him in any way.
--- Quote from: khatre on March 14, 2012, 01:59:35 PM ---Lash whispered to Harry. I have never seen any conclusive proof that Lash was playing along with Harry's expectations about the circle isolating Lasciel.
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Lash stopped whispering (well, playing Rock & Roll) as soon as he empowered the circle at the end of Death Masks. She didn't need to stop; it's not like she was inside the circle, after all. If you don't think that was Lash playing along, what exactly do you think happened?
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