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Serack:

--- Quote from: Paladino on March 14, 2012, 01:21:09 PM ---I thoug about they having mass because their origin was outside the nevernever, but than it hit me, they are older and older than mankind, by the erlking talk in DB I understood that he was running around with the dinousaurs... So whatver migrated from the real world to the nevernever was something older than the dinousaurs.. How that evolved to what they are today is strange.. One would assume that whatever walked there did not have the inteligence the Fae have now a days, so how could two diferent especies, separeted from million years, in two totally diferent ambients are so similar (ok mankind and fae are diferente, but not as much as man kind and dinosaurs for example)..

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I don't think Erl's comments makes him older than the dino's...  He could be, but they aren't confirmation of it.  He just recognized that T-Rex hasn't walked the world in a /long/ time.


--- Quote from: DB ch 45 ---"Wizard.  Called you forth a mighty hunter tonight.  One that has not walked this earth since time gone and forgotten."
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I happened to have read that last night.

TheCuriousFan:

--- Quote from: Serack on March 14, 2012, 01:17:53 PM ---No, Faries are part mortal, so they have physical bodies.  Don't forget that RCV's leave remains when they die too.
 

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I still have to wonder how the supernatural is hidden with all the obviously non-human corpses around. (such as the Hobs at the subway, or were they melted by the lights?)

Paladino:

--- Quote from: Serack on March 14, 2012, 01:17:53 PM ---No, Faries are part mortal, so they have physical bodies.  Don't forget that RCV's leave remains when they die too.

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But how are they part mortal, if they were walking around way before mankind showed up? I can  swallow that they evolved from the same fish we did, but that got lost and went to nevernever... But then there is the evolution problem we I mentioned in my other post..

It would be very nice to have Mother Winter and Mother Summer for a talkshow with Larry Fowler to clear some of this doubts..


--- Quote from: Serack on March 14, 2012, 01:25:02 PM ---I don't think Erl's comments makes him older than the dino's...  He could be, but they aren't confirmation of it.  He just recognized that T-Rex hasn't walked the world in a /long/ time.

I happened to have read that last night.

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Still he had to know the T-rex was a great hunter... For all we know he could be jus ta big buzzard eating dead dinosaurs..

I got re-read the mothers passage in SK to see if there is any mention about their age..

Serack:

--- Quote from: Paladino on March 14, 2012, 01:29:06 PM ---But how are they part mortal, if they were walking around way before mankind showed up? I can  swallow that they evolved from the same fish we did, but that got lost and went to nevernever... But then there is the evolution problem we I mentioned in my other post..

It would be very nice to have Mother Winter and Mother Summer for a talkshow with Larry Fowler to clear some of this doubts..

Still he had to know the T-rex was a great hunter... For all we know he could be jus ta big buzzard eating dead dinosaurs..

I got re-read the mothers passage in SK to see if there is any mention about their age..

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Here is a little info on that:


--- Quote from: jimbutcher on April 08, 2009, 10:58:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: The Watchman on March 05, 2009, 08:23:09 AM ---1. the mothers - how does a queen become a mother? like after a thousand yrs, old winter dies and mab becomes the new mother?
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Essentially abdication.  The previous mother wearies of her duty and moves along.  There's been one new Mother Summer during recorded human history.  Mother Winter has never retired.
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wyltok:

--- Quote from: TonyA on March 14, 2012, 07:58:23 AM ---2) When Harry burried Lasciel's coin (Death Masks); why didn't the wet cement disrupt the circle? Harry broke the Shadowmans circle with a film canister.

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Keep in mind, the whispers in Harry's mind didn't actually stop due to the empowered steel circle around the coin. Lasciel's shadow was already firmly implanted in his noggin, and just decided to play along with his expectations. She also made it clear more than once that the circle would not block Harry from summoning the coin, either.

Still, that doesn't actually invalidate the original question: why did Harry, magic nerd extraordinaire, expect that pouring cement into an active circle wouldn't disrupt the magic empowering the circle? I'm with Serack on this one: the pouring of the cement was (in Harry's mind) part of the magic being enacted by Harry to entrap the coin, so as part of the same spell, it wouldn't disrupt the circle.


--- Quote from: Paladino on March 14, 2012, 01:29:06 PM ---But how are they part mortal, if they were walking around way before mankind showed up? I can  swallow that they evolved from the same fish we did, but that got lost and went to nevernever... But then there is the evolution problem we I mentioned in my other post...
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Fae are a species that literally grow in size as they grow in influence and power. Their evolution is at least partly due to their use of the Stone Table as a conduit of power and responsibility. They probably did not look human at all before our monkey forefathers descended from the trees, but were probably smart enough to change themselves once they realized how influential we were. Even so, they still retain quite a few non-human traits in their makeup.

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