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A Fallen scorned (GS spoilers)

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Rasins:

--- Quote from: KevinSig on December 07, 2011, 11:24:13 PM ---Not to say that I couldn't be wrong, but I don't like the idea of Lashiel, being able to get into Harry's head, with both a church & distance standing in her way.  Plus, last we knew she was still in church hands & I also dislike the idea that both Lea & Lashiel were put in action at the same time.

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For all we know Lasciel's coin may still be in St. Mary's.  It may not have been that much of a distance for Lasciel to send out her shadow to Harry.  We really don't know.  Besides that, we know the denarians can have influence here on earth beyond their coin via WoJ.

Mercutio:
I (as usual ;D) see things slightly differently.

Inez is where I see two branching possiblities... one is that she is Mab in disguise, the other is that she is Lashiel in disguise.  Inez tries to make Harry believe he will be a Monster, and that being a Monster is a good thing.  They would say the same things because it is in their best interest to push Harry into darker states of mind.  Mab wants to make Harry easier to manipulate, Lashiel wants him to be easier to corrupt. 

Since GS is all about proxies(SP) that mean that one of them is represented by Inez.  Mab can just as be represented by Lea,  Lashiel could be the shadow that tricks Harry, but I see Lucy or Nicky's shadow as more likely... UNLESS Lashiels coin has already found itself a new holder. Then I guess I can see a whole Spiderman/Venom thing happening.

But as a whole I don't really buy into the whole scorned Fallen Angel angel.  Lash wasn't tied to the to coin, she was free to develop unless Harry touched the Coin again.  If that had happened Lash would have been consumed by Lashiel, at which point the Fallen would have gained all the personal intel some of you seem to think she has on Harry.  I dont think Lashiel has current access to Harry's state of mind, what she has is a book of Harry that covers everything he remembers of his own life until he shields the coin (NOT the same thing as everything that's happened to him, and assuming she's still in the coin).  Now if she was picked up by a new wielder they/she could investigate to see what Harry's doing , and potentially get pissed at being put off and plotting revenge.

What others have said may be right, but if anything I put forth give people other avenues of thought to explore I'm happy.

TheCuriousFan:

--- Quote ---Inez is where I see two branching possiblities... one is that she is Mab in disguise, the other is that she is Lashiel in disguise. 
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We have WoJ that Mab had a proxy at each conversation at the graveyard.

Paladino:
The WoJ say that both Demonreach and Mab had a proxy in both conversation at Harry's grave, so we can take conversation number 1 Inez = Mab Proxy, Eternal Silence = Demonreach Proxy. Conversation number 2 Lea = Mab Proxy, Eternal Silence = Demonreach.

So it kind rules out Lash or Lasciel being at those scenes. Of course, Lash or Lasciel could be Inez while being proxy for Mab, possible, but I find hard to belive. Lasciel especially.

So I'll keep idea that Lash = Parasite, Lasciel = Whispering Shadow.

Vairelome:
I believe one of the consequences of Lasciel being the whispering shadow is that her coin must not be locked away behind a warding circle.  It's at least strongly suggested that one of the effects of Lasciel's coin being buried in the concrete floor of Harry's lab was that Lash could diverge in personality and motivation from Lasciel.  If Lasciel had been able to check up on the process while still being locked in two circles and buried, I don't think Harry could have had as strong an influence over time on Lash as he clearly did.

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