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A Fallen scorned (GS spoilers)
Griffyn612:
I got the impression that the only voice speaking to Harry's head from the coin is the Lash imprint. Lash's imprint couldn't directly talk to Harry until he first started wielding hellfire consciously. Prior to that, there wasn't any direct contact. Lasciel never communicated directly with Harry.
I agree the headaches are suspicious, as are the memory lapses, but the headaches can be explained as his brain healing in the section that got burned out by Lash's sacrifice in WN.
I think that the shadow whispering to Harry in the church in GS is from Nick's coin, which we know A) appears in the form of a shadow, B) has motivation for revenge due to Harry's attack on Nick in TC, and C) his contact with Harry would be against the rules, since he hasn't taken up that coin, and therefore has no right to communicate or influence him, therefore allowing Uriel to act as well.
As for multiple, ongoing illegal influences allowing Uriel free reign to act beyond what he did in Changes, I doubt that the Fallen are unaware of his restrictions. They probably play by the rules more to keep the good guys from wielding more power rather than any limitation they put on themselves.
Vairelome:
--- Quote from: Salacia on September 13, 2011, 10:36:26 PM ---I think only the times that resulted in a loss of Harry's free will actually matter as far as retaliation goes for Uriel.
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I'd actually go a bit farther than that. I think Uriel will only do the intervention/retaliation/balance thing when the free-will-compromising action on the part of the Fallen results in a "forced choice" that directly causes the death of the person compromised.
I don't have the precise text in front of me, but Harry questions Uriel directly on this point, with regard to the truly horrific things the naagloshi did to Thomas. Harry thinks this is a pretty damn direct analogy, since a powerful supernatural force brutalized Thomas into despair and embracing the monster. Uriel's response is that Harry's mostly right, but the naagloshi's actions that compromised Thomas' free will did not result in Thomas' death, so he was not permitted to balance the act.
Also, I think you did a really solid job at laying out this theory. I think the second voice in the Ick incident might not be Uriel, but other than that, I find it very persuasive. :)
Monkez:
A very well thought out theory. I'm impressed. Kudos! As I re-read the series, I'll look out for other "whispers".
santiago:
This is a well-thought out theory. I've never considered the headaches other than fallout from Lash taking the psychic bullet, but maybe I should reconsider... Things to think about then re-reading the series.
pobabylon:
I'm almost positive i've read theories on this board before about the headaches being harry's mind healing itself over time (in similar fashion to how his hand is slowly healing itself beyond normal human limits)
and that, as his mind heals itself, so to might lash be able to be returned (reborn?) in his mind.
iirc, at the end of death masks before harry buried the coin he was hearing whispering and a voice.. i don't think that was lash, i think that was the full fallen angel lasciel... only now, harry no longer has the coin sealed away in his basement.
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