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Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
Seri:
First off- Oh My Gods. Seriously?! ~flails about~ Ahhh! So much goodness I think I might explode. Totally worth waiting a few extra months for. But can I say, Jim you magnificent b@stard... When will the next book be out?!
But can I say- totally nailed it with the Deamonreach theory. Though I was so, so hoping he'd be free of Mab. Curses! Now then. ~dusts off~
I think we're all working under the assumption that Harry is actually going to tell people that he's alive. Will he? He say how devastated everyone was and how they've all started to finally accept he's gone. Not to mention his daughter is with the Carpenters. He can't be around them now if he's trying to keep her identity secret. Not to mention all the other stuff that just went down.
So will he? I'm sure eventually he will, someone is bound to find out sooner or later. But I'm putting my money on not sooner. I see a lot of court politics and bad guy chasing in the future. Either in the Never Never or in the shadows- maybe not even in Chicago! At least for the next book or two. I mean he's always been in Chicago but some bad stuff be a brewin' and he's off to Faerie so who knows when he'll show up on the streets again.
BadHumours:
Hi, everyone, first post.
With regard to Uriel's seven words: Uriel says that Mab is lying, but we know she is incapable of lying (Mr. Butcher thoughtfully wrote us a scene in this very book in which Dresden reminds us of this). On the other hand, nowhere is it said the Uriel is incapable of lying. He certainly seems to find it distasteful, but presumably he is capable of it, especially when issues of cosmic balance are involved.
The Fallen sent Harry along one path with a seven word* lie. It seems logical that Uriel would think it fitting to give him back his free will with another (a white lie in this case, and one that gives Harry the, perhaps misguided, courage to stand up to Mab). Bottom line: Harry is wrong. Mab has more control over him than he thinks she does.
*-Btw, anyone else excited over what is, to me at least, clearly an homage to Rothfuss?
jphendren:
--- Quote from: Seri on July 27, 2011, 08:16:40 PM ---I think we're all working under the assumption that Harry is actually going to tell people that he's alive. Will he? He say how devastated everyone was and how they've all started to finally accept he's gone. Not to mention his daughter is with the Carpenters. He can't be around them now if he's trying to keep her identity secret. Not to mention all the other stuff that just went down.
So will he? I'm sure eventually he will, someone is bound to find out sooner or later. But I'm putting my money on not sooner. I see a lot of court politics and bad guy chasing in the future. Either in the Never Never or in the shadows- maybe not even in Chicago! At least for the next book or two. I mean he's always been in Chicago but some bad stuff be a brewin' and he's off to Faerie so who knows when he'll show up on the streets again.
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True, i think to a degree we are all assuming that sometime in the next book, Harry will make his way back into chicago to renunite with the justice league. The way the stories are going it will most likely be in the last 2-3 paragraphs of the next book. But of course the possiblity exists that He will be unable to contact or unwilling to contact them. However, i just can't see that being the case.
He's already seen the devastation he has caued his friends and loved ones , and he recognizes that they are all still in danger what with them not having a heavyweight wizard around to balance the scales, so he's going to want to get back to chicago asap, possibly in a shadow role if nothing else, so that he can continue to protect his "family".
The big question in the next book is to what lengths does Harry have to go to secure his parole from Mab, to be able to operate out of Chicago, and not the Winter Court. Because while i can see the possibility of one book taking place in the Fairie courts, with all new supporting cast, I can't see two. Since i would think that constantly being surrounded by the "otherness" of the unseelie courts would weigh on him heavily for an extended period of time.
jphendren:
--- Quote from: BadHumours on July 27, 2011, 08:28:39 PM ---*-Btw, anyone else excited over what is, to me at least, clearly an homage to Rothfuss?
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That's awesome, I feel like a dunce for not even realizing that after reading it. Nice Catch! "The Name of the Wind" definitely gripped me like no other debut novel since Storm Front.
Autra:
--- Quote from: BadHumours on July 27, 2011, 08:28:39 PM ---Hi, everyone, first post.
With regard to Uriel's seven words: Uriel says that Mab is lying, but we know she is incapable of lying (Mr. Butcher thoughtfully wrote us a scene in this very book in which Dresden reminds us of this). On the other hand, nowhere is it said the Uriel is incapable of lying. He certainly seems to find it distasteful, but presumably he is capable of it, especially when issues of cosmic balance are involved.
The Fallen sent Harry along one path with a seven word* lie. It seems logical that Uriel would think it fitting to give him back his free will with another (a white lie in this case, and one that gives Harry the, perhaps misguided, courage to stand up to Mab). Bottom line: Harry is wrong. Mab has more control over him than he thinks she does.
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Was Uriel's point actually that Mab can lie at all? His 7 words were what jolted Harry into realizing what little leverage he had over Mab. She doesn't want an automaton, she wants a freethinking bada$$ working for her. He has a little bit of leverage because she doesn't want him to "have the initiative of a garden statue," and the Uriel's 7 words helped him figure that out.
Who cares whether Mab or Uriel can tell a lie? Uriel said what needed to be said, when it needed to be said.
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