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Ghost Story Book Club - Chapters 46-FINISH **MAJOR SPOILERS**
GeSar:
--- Quote from: john4200 on July 27, 2011, 06:36:20 PM ---Harry thinks she knows: "You can't make me your monster. Doesn't work. And you know it."
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I think it's simpler than that. The words were not lies, the implication was. As Harry said, while the fae cannot lie, they can deceive. When Harry was pushing back at Mab, he never denied that she could force an action. He just threatened her with results would be the opposite of what she wanted. He was negotiating the fine print now that Uriel pointed out that he wasn't an automaton, nor was it what she wanted.
rbette1299:
What Harry got from his ghost story was that he owns his soul and no one can make him give it up, especially not Mab. When he realized what she had done to keep his body alive he realized how very important he was to her and that is his leverage. At best, she will be able to direct him but not control. He will likley face several future ethical delimnas with her. She will want him to take down someone that he doesn't believe deserves it and this will be very interesting to see how it plays out. Btw did anyone think of the Hive Queen in the Speaker for the Dead, Orson Scott Card when Mab's was described as being as a nearly starved insect?
I really enjoyed this time out for Harry as we got to see him mature big time. He is now connecting the dots and accepting that actions always have consequences. I think we will see him be much more thoughtful and analytical in the future.
I would be surprised if we see him back in Chicago for more than a brief visit for several more books. They told him that Chicago was doing better than most other big cities because of the Justice League and Molly/Rag Lady. I think Harry will be playing with the Big Boys in other interesting places in the world for awhile. I can't wait until he comes up against the White or Black Council. The White Council could still sanction him for what he did to the Red Court seeing as how they have had to hop to clean up the repercussions. But, while he is the Winter Knight, they can't touch him.
I think Harry is being groomed for something much bigger than Chicago and bigger than the Sidhe Court. Both sides want him and this interlude masterminded by Uriel was to make sure Harry knows he has choices and that it is his choices that define him.
Vikermac:
How about little Maggie growing up with the Carpenters? Seems ideal when Harry was presumed dead, but with/if Harry comes back to his Chicago life, still teaching/working with Molly, then he will invariably/inevitably interact with the Carpenters again. I think Maggie will continue to play an important role in the DV. Also, how are the White Council going to take the news? If Harry was treated with mistrust and suspicion before now, how will they react to him coming back from the dead six months later? Will his being a Winter Knight help him as far as the Council is concerned? And will it stop him from taking up the mantel that Eb talking about in Changes?
xakko:
Wow. Just wow.
It took me two sittings, 'cause I had to work, but I *loved* *this* *book*.
I don't see Harry/Molly ever happening, not when Jim seems to be tying even more parallels to Luccio/Morgan with the "never going to happen" territory. I agree Harry/Murphy takes a major blow as well, but I think Murph will aim much of her anger at Molly, poor girl. Harry didn't know he'd chosen suicide. Karrin's been around his crazy schemes long enough to understand what he was aiming for with the Kincaid-assisted suicide, and, in a sense, I think she might even forgive both of them for the shooting. She herself noted that when dealing with monsters, sometimes you have to just take the shot.
My little dream about a future Little Harry/Maggie ship is now completely sunk.
I'm curious that it appears Elaine's come out to the White Council, if her words have enough weight to back up those of Carlos.
With all the comic book references, large parts of this made me feel like this was one long character development issue. With kickass fights. It really sets the groundwork for the rest of the series, a kind of Days of Future Past, but one that they have to live in.
And I can't wait for Mab to turn Harry against the Fomor, ancient enemies of the Sidhe. Makes you wonder if Summer and Winter (and the Erlking?) might have to team up on that.
trek:
Anyone else have characters in mind that you were pretty well convinced you'd see in action in Ghost Story - but didn't?
Malcolm Dresden
Ebenezer McCoy
Sgt Rawlins
Toot-toot
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