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Sanctaphrax:
Using Swift Transition like that doesn't stretch the rules, it ignores them completely.

Being able to lose your Powers through mutilation isn't a weakness. More or less all Claws work like that.

Still don't understand the power-lending.

Lavecki121:
Right. Which is why im saying it doesnt work.

Yea but I could easily implant any IoP (well maybe not any) into my skin or swallow it kind of like the denarians do with their coins.

Sorry then. I dont really know how else to explain it

Sanctaphrax:
Incorporating Items of Power into your body to make them un-lose-able is pretty sketchy...it basically removes the rationale for the IoP rebate.

Might be technically rules-valid, but if so that really shouldn't be used as precedent for determining what the rules should do.

Personally, I'd rather avoid the entire issue by using Item Limitation.

As for the power-stealing, I don't think I made the things I was confused about clear enough. Here, lemme try again:

-How do you steal Powers from people? Do you have to rend their soul, as the name implies?
-What happens to people whose Powers are stolen? You'd think they'd lose those Powers, but Mimic Abilities doesn't normally work like that.
-How do you lend out Powers? Do you just touch the lend-ee?
-How long do lent Powers last? Can you make them disappear at will?
-If you steal the maximum Refresh total of Powers and lend them out, can you steal more? Because it seems like maybe you can, but that's pretty broken.

Deadmanwalking:

--- Quote from: Lavecki121 on January 24, 2013, 04:52:57 PM ---Yea but I could easily implant any IoP (well maybe not any) into my skin or swallow it kind of like the denarians do with their coins.
--- End quote ---

Denarian coins are explicitly not Items of Power for basically this reason (well, mostly because you can magically call them)...they can't be readily taken away, so they don't count.

Lavecki121:

--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on January 25, 2013, 10:14:57 PM ---Incorporating Items of Power into your body to make them un-lose-able is pretty sketchy...it basically removes the rationale for the IoP rebate.

--- End quote ---

 Yea it really doesn't bother me enough to argue for it. Was just an idea



--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on January 25, 2013, 10:14:57 PM ---As for the power-stealing, I don't think I made the things I was confused about clear enough. Here, lemme try again:

-How do you steal Powers from people? Do you have to rend their soul, as the name implies?
-What happens to people whose Powers are stolen? You'd think they'd lose those Powers, but Mimic Abilities doesn't normally work like that.
-How do you lend out Powers? Do you just touch the lend-ee?
-How long do lent Powers last? Can you make them disappear at will?
-If you steal the maximum Refresh total of Powers and lend them out, can you steal more? Because it seems like maybe you can, but that's pretty broken.

--- End quote ---

What my thought for them to actually rend their souls. When I play tested I had the character actually getting tics or mannerisms from people he stole powers from. Stealing a power requires basically a battle where the person has to have the glove on either the brain or heart. The person who has power stolen has it stolen. You don't actually lend powers out, you give them to the next person, this freeing up your refresh. I had an issue where losing the battle wasn't consequential enough so I made it so that you could get negative traits and possibly even aspects. But that's why I put it here, to get opinions.

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