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svb1972:
Actually if Gods are ascended humans, why does The Archangel formely known as Murphy's Mouth, call the Red King 'False Gods and Usurpers". By that definition all the Gods would be usurpers. Which would I think make Odin just a touch nervous.
And Mab is not a God. She's a force of Nature. Slightly different.
The Mormons believe they are part of the lost 13th tribe of Israel. it's complicated and way outside the scope of this board :)
And actually the only evidence we have that Angels(Fallen or otherwise) are from before time is /maybe/ Lash saying she was around for Millennium before those little upstarts men. But Lash is about as reliable as a pathological liar.
Uriel doesn't really talk about how long he's been around. I mean, sure he uses words like, The All Mighty. But that could be PR and not a claim to have existed before existance itself.
Curly:
--- Quote from: Curly on June 02, 2010, 04:53:13 AM ---
Who never uses whatsoever power they have to get what they want?
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--- Quote from: ballplayer72 on June 02, 2010, 03:14:51 PM ---
So you'd rape a woman because you desire her and you are able to physically overpower her?
Cause thats where that logic leads. ::)
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That's quite a leap. Care to explicit your "logic" for those of us with shorter mental legs?
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: WarlocksRUs on June 02, 2010, 03:39:11 PM ---What evidence would you accept?
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Something we were shown, as opposed to something we were told.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: svb1972 on June 02, 2010, 03:46:28 PM ---Actually if Gods are ascended humans, why does The Archangel formely known as Murphy's Mouth, call the Red King 'False Gods and Usurpers". By that definition all the Gods would be usurpers. Which would I think make Odin just a touch nervous.
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Not necessarily, I think it's also compatible with the following take on things:
The original, real, not-false LoONs are/were ascended humans, who have been swept out of DV Earth into the deep NN in whatever event it was swept all the other old gods out. The Red Court's LoONs are pretenders claiming that title.
The archangel riding Murphy could be objecting to the latter ut still be entirely happy with generally considering ascended-human-type gods as gods.
ballplayer72:
--- Quote from: Curly on June 02, 2010, 03:49:34 PM ---That's quite a leap. Care to explicit your "logic" for those of us with shorter mental legs?
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You quoted it and so did I: Who would not use whatsoever power they had (like say physical strength) to get what they want (sex with a particular woman.)?
The word WHATSOEVER puts no limits on means. The phrase "what they want" puts no limits on certain outcomes. That means you could use any means to achieve any goal (in this instance physical strength to force sexual intercourse).
Thats the problem with making absolute statements. I have yet to see one that fits every situation (doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but I haven't seen it)
We don't even have to use rape as an example if it makes you uncomfortable.
How about this one: Is murder an appropriate method of career advancment? Would you kill the next guy in line so you could have the spot? Its easily within your power (you can buy a gun or a knife can't you?) and for the sake of the excercise no one will ever know about it and you'll actually get the job, but only if the guy dies.
So, do you use "whatsoever power" to achieve your "want"? See the problem?
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