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Reil:

--- Quote from: Ms. Duck on June 02, 2010, 12:42:52 PM ---

he later emebellished in a live interview that the queens were at one time human, I believe. I dont have an actual quote here, but it's been listed several times in the threads about the queens themselves.( and allso implied for example, with JB's statment that the gruffs were all originaly changelings, as was presumably lea)


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Wow.  That's very remeniscent of the rite of ascension used in Berserk.  Might need to revisit my [even more] nerdly days and re-read that series. 

If it's true that the fairy queens/erlking were once mortals/humans/changelings/whatever,  I wonder if their ascension came concurrent to their switch to full-on fairy, and if so, who did they sacrifice?  Was it just a random bunch of people, or did the sacrifices have personal meaning to them?


--- Quote ---Frankly im of the opinion that ALL the gods were onc ehuman wizards who ascended, or their servants, and that's why the 'laws must stand as written' to prevent people from starting World Wars to become super gods.
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Don't think I agree with this one here.  This might work for a lot of the mythological deities, especially those from the Greek, Egyptian, Norse, and Hindu traditions.  Many of them seem to act just like extremely powerful people might.  Angels (fallen and otherwise) were here before humanity, before time.  It would seem strange then to think that the white god in the dresdenverse is an ascended human.  The Outsiders as well as the entities referred to in Backup seem particularly alien in nature. 

ballplayer72:

--- Quote from: Curly on June 02, 2010, 04:53:13 AM ---I wouldn't. People enjoy destruction. They love walking in fresh snow, sitting in new cars, biting into whole apples, because the supposed untaintedness, the wholeness give them a little warm fuzzy feeling to know that they have the privilege of destroying it.

What child doesn't love winning?

Who never uses whatsoever power they have to get what they want?


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So you'd rape a woman because you desire her and you are able to physically overpower her?

Cause thats where that logic leads.     ::)

the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:

--- Quote from: Reil on June 02, 2010, 03:05:18 PM ---  Angels (fallen and otherwise) were here before humanity, before time.

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I would note that we have no evidence for this beyond these entities' claims.

WarlocksRUs:

--- Quote from: neurovore on June 02, 2010, 03:29:04 PM ---I would note that we have no evidence for this beyond these entities' claims.

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What evidence would you accept?

neofyte:

--- Quote from: Reil on June 02, 2010, 03:05:18 PM ---It would seem strange then to think that the white god in the dresdenverse is an ascended human.  

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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I think that one is from Joseph Smith (Mormon)?

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