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Duels between mortal Practitioners and the Law of Magic

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SaintAndSinner:

--- Quote from: Mal_Luck on April 28, 2010, 12:50:01 PM ---But members of the Accords when acting under them must abide by them. Which the White Council are members.

Again I still think this is probably an issue for the GM just interested what other GMs would do.

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All I meant was you need to not confuse breaking the Accords with breaking the Laws of Magic.  Different things.  It looked like some posters might have been getting them confused.  

meh:

--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking on April 28, 2010, 05:01:36 PM ---Lethal Wards on your own home are the definition of a bomb that you have a fair expectation of NEVER harming a human. It's only if you know it's probably gonna that you get Lawbreaker. Lethal Wards on someone else's home as a booby trap? Lawbreaker territory.

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The other option in this whole debate is a purely consequentialist reading for First Law, with exceptions /possibly/ being granted as an executive pardon not a juristical conclusion.

I think that might actually work better for an RPG, and it allows formal duels to have structure as part of executive power and the a priori granting of pardons.

Deadmanwalking:

--- Quote from: meh on April 28, 2010, 05:10:00 PM ---The other option in this whole debate is a purely consequentialist reading for First Law, with exceptions /possibly/ being granted as an executive pardon not a juristical conclusion.

I think that might actually work better for an RPG, and it allows formal duels to have structure as part of executive power and the a priori granting of pardons.

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Personally, I'm arguing metaphysics, not law. I'm arguing what twists your soul and grants Lawbreaker, not what the Wardens will prosecute.

meh:

--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking on April 28, 2010, 05:14:55 PM ---Personally, I'm arguing metaphysics, not law. I'm arguing what twists your soul and grants Lawbreaker, not what the Wardens will prosecute.

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I got that.   

My point here being that the other possible reading is that everyone is metaphysically contaminated, and the gray Warden cloaks stand as symbol of that.

Deadmanwalking:

--- Quote from: meh on April 28, 2010, 05:21:48 PM ---I got that.   

My point here being that the other possible reading is that everyone is metaphysically contaminated, and the gray Warden cloaks stand as symbol of that.

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Oh, probably. In a philosophical sense nobody's pure. But there's still a difference between gray and black, which the Laws (as portrayed in both the books and game rules) help to distinguish between.

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