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Duels between mortal Practitioners and the Law of Magic
flymolo:
--- Quote from: Moriden on April 28, 2010, 02:10:23 PM ---If it exists pc's will find a way to get it, and use it.
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Then they will have the converse problem. They won't have the lawbreaker stunt but WILL have wardens on their ass.
Alternatively, there may be locations that have these properties, which would be somewhat less abusable.
meh:
Have any of your wizards figured out how to animate golems yet?
Deadmanwalking:
--- Quote from: meh on April 28, 2010, 03:49:11 PM ---
Have any of your wizards figured out how to animate golems yet?
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What does that have to do with anything?
meh:
--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking on April 28, 2010, 03:51:04 PM ---What does that have to do with anything?
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Everything.
Killing someone with a mundane artifact that's had magic applied to it doesn't count as a violation of the First Law if there's no magic being applied at kill time.
Heck, the principle applies to entropy curses, too. If you can figure out how to power one without Outsider backing, there's nothing in the Laws to stop you.
Deadmanwalking:
--- Quote from: meh on April 28, 2010, 03:58:55 PM ---Everything.
Killing someone with a mundane artifact that's had magic applied to it doesn't count as a violation of the First Law if there's no magic being applied at kill time.
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Firstly, that's debatable, since creating Golems almost always involves summoning a spirit to possess them, and using summoned entities to kill does break the Laws.
And secondly, and not debatably, we're talking about a formal duel using energy as a weapon, where golems are certainly not going to be allowed.
--- Quote from: meh on April 28, 2010, 03:58:55 PM ---Heck, the principle applies to entropy curses, too. If you can figure out how to power one without Outsider backing, there's nothing in the Laws to stop you.
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And this is just flat-out wrong. The Laws are about intent, if you intend to kill someone it doesn't matter how indirectly you do it, you get Lawbreaker, and the Wardens will kill you if they catch you. Re-read the section on the Laws in YS, ditto the section on Thaumaturgy.
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