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Moriden:

--- Quote ---Your opponent is the one that chooses whether or not to fill consequence boxes. In order to assert that there's no point in even trying (though your opponent might anyway), you have to produce a large enough stress effect that the taken out result is inevitable *no matter what*. If you're okay with your spell just mangling the crap out of him and not killing him as one possible outcome, setting the target lower works too.

Keep in mind that in order to cast one of these sorts of spells, Victor Sells spent most of the entire length of Storm Front doing preparation.  This is not something someone does casually or in the middle of dealing with seven other kinds of problems.

Plus, if your target is a supernatural creature, or behind a particularly strong threshold, you have to account for that as well.

Remote-death spells are *hard work*.
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Thank you iago, that helps some. so since this is a trans formative spell that's intentionally being cast on myself to one make it easier and two avoid breaking the fourth? law i can safely say that i wont be resisting it and do not need to fill up all the consequence slots.

that leaves me with the questions of what is the base complexity, and do i still have to fill up my stress track?
is it one shift per stunt added, two per, or something less concrete?
How many shifts for permanent/full transformation
etc



Brian Blacknight

iago:

--- Quote from: Moriden on April 16, 2010, 12:56:14 PM ---Thank you iago, that helps some. so since this is a trans formative spell that's intentionally being cast on myself to one make it easier and two avoid breaking the fourth? law i can safely say that i wont be resisting it and do not need to fill up all the consequence slots.

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Oh, right. Transformation.

Laws like the first and fourth are about what you can't do to other people. Go ahead and kill or transform *yourself*, that's fine. (If it weren't fine, then shapeshifting yourself would be off limits -- making trouble for the alphas.)

And remember, once you ascend, you're likely to have so damn much power you're definitely an NPC.

On that note, your GM would probably want to charge you a huge amount of shifts to represent the power it takes to, you know, be a god, on top of the basics of just achieving that taken out bit.

Moriden:

--- Quote ---And remember, once you ascend, you're likely to have so damn much power you're definitely an NPC.

On that note, your GM would probably want to charge you a huge amount of shifts to represent the power it takes to, you know, be a god, on top of the basics of just achieving that taken out bit.

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*laughs* did you read the original description iago? Specifically this part...

--- Quote ---[ all of which I'm paying for, the ritual is mostly just background flavor to explain being a scion without a heritage]
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iago:
Sure -- but the question was about the math. :)

Moriden:

--- Quote ---Sure -- but the question was about the math. Smiley
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yeahp, your npc comment didn't really make much sense though since im paying for the stunts that i get. :P


Back to the math though. so your saying its not a clear case of one or two shifts of complexity per stunt given, its more of a "oh x amount feels right"?

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